Evidence for God from Science

1over137 wrote: Well, I want to ask you Magsolo, why He should prevent widespread evil and suffering (on this Earth)?
Feel free to send me private message.

Because widespread evil and suffering are bad and God is supposed to be good

Stop making a fool of yourself, MAGSolo.

FL

How am I making a fool of myself?

I sent you a private message.

FL

MAGSolo, you will be free to return to the board and this conversation in 24 hours time.

We have a board purpose and discussion guidelines for a reason. Please don't presume to assume that you can manipulate people by their better nature to think that it's raining while you pee on their shoes. I'm very happy to have a discussion with you or anyone else that is willing to show personal respect and engage in a such a discussion with the ability to listen as well as speak.

I hope 24 hours will be enough for you to consider this before re-engaging. If not, then the discussion in this forum will be at a close.

MAGSolo wrote:

1over137 wrote: Well, I want to ask you Magsolo, why He should prevent widespread evil and suffering (on this Earth)?
Feel free to send me private message.

Because widespread evil and suffering are bad and God is supposed to be good

Do you think God is happy about widespread evil? I do not think so. God is good, yes, but also just.

Well, I went through some very tough sufferings in my life and I do not hate God for it. Thanks to it I grew.

Evil is due to sin. Evil is absence of God. We do not want God therefore we have evil.

Speaking on behalf of Christianity alone, whether or not God is worthy to be worshipped is purely down to your perspective on who God is.
I believe God is a God of love, compassion, grace and justice who loved the world and it's center-piece (mankind) so much that He sent His begotten son to provide salvation for people like you and me. I believe in a God who heals the brokenhearted, lavishes grace upon those who choose to receive it and who has a plan and purpose for the lives of every human being on the planet. Furthermore I believe in a God who can take the most torn apart, broken life and completely transform and renew it into a beautiful new creation as I have seen Him do many times, including my own life.

If that doesn't make God worthy of worship, I don't know what does.

SB

It is my honor and privilege to worship God who is my lord and savior, the God of love and the God of justice who came down from his throne in heaven to live as the poorest of men, to be ridiculed, spat on, beaten and crucified. He did all this because he loves us so much and wants more than anything to have a personal relationship with all of us. There is nothing more that I could ever want then to see him face to face in heaven, to give him a hug spend all of eternity with him with my family friends and all of humanity. To me there is nothing that makes more sense. Nothing even comes close, because in the end he isn't just the God of love, he is LOVE itself.

And God doesn't create evil. He created us with the free will choice to follow the laws he has engraved into our hearts or turn away from them. Without the gift of free will we wouldn't be able to love.

MagSolo, here is something for you http://m.ccel.org/ccel/aquinas/summa.toc.html

Just search for the word 'evil' and read whatever is of interest to you. You can find there many answers.

Enjoy!

MAGSolo wrote:

1over137 wrote: Well, I want to ask you Magsolo, why He should prevent widespread evil and suffering (on this Earth)?
Feel free to send me private message.

Because widespread evil and suffering are bad and God is supposed to be good

Define and account for 'good' and 'evil' and provide a context for them that isn't dependent of human bias. Then we can talk.

jlay wrote:

MAGSolo wrote:

1over137 wrote: Well, I want to ask you Magsolo, why He should prevent widespread evil and suffering (on this Earth)?
Feel free to send me private message.

Because widespread evil and suffering are bad and God is supposed to be good

Define and account for 'good' and 'evil' and provide a context for them that isn't dependent of human bias. Then we can talk.

Seriously J, how many times are we supposed to do this, with the same person no less? After a while it gets to be simply sickening to discuss the same subject over and over and over again.

At some point we just need to leave them to their own demons.

One more thing MagSolo. Tell me, why God 'bothered' to send His Son to earth?

Drop kick him through the goal posts. I've confronted Mag numerous times and challenged his sincerity. I love a healthy discussion, but I agree.

Something to admire.

Following Jesus words are slightly before his crucifixion:

John 14:1-3
"14 “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God[a]; believe also in me. 2 My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? 3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am."

Following is from one book:
"No chiding and resentment here, no self-pity or self-absorption - only concern for his friends and a decidedly tender longing to be with them." (Lundgaard - Through the Looking Glass)

1over137 wrote:

MAGSolo wrote:

1over137 wrote: Well, I want to ask you Magsolo, why He should prevent widespread evil and suffering (on this Earth)?
Feel free to send me private message.

Because widespread evil and suffering are bad and God is supposed to be good

Do you think God is happy about widespread evil? I do not think so. God is good, yes, but also just.

Well, I went through some very tough sufferings in my life and I do not hate God for it. Thanks to it I grew.

Evil is due to sin. Evil is absence of God. We do not want God therefore we have evil.

Providing God even exists, I dont think hes happy about widespread evil, but I do think he is indifferent about it.