No. The Muslim country that tolerates a form of homosexuality (actually, pedophilia) between boys and men is Afghanistan. Effeminate boys are usually taken by powerful men and taught to dress & sing like women; and they are used sexually. The boys are discarded as they enter puberty.
While I'm not saying it is a direct comparison, medieval Christian societies did essentially the exact same thing with young boys, mainly through boy's choirs. This was tolerated (and rather publicly known) for centuries. In retrospect, this was a backward and evil practice that the Catholics practiced, and luckily they don't anymore, at least not outwardly.
Much of the Muslim-dominated Middle East is the same way that a Christian-dominated Europe was during the Middle Ages, especially in the treatment of children and women categories. Does that mean we should condone it? No, but at the same time it's hard for me to judge that region for not moving forward as a society when there has never been a chance for peace there in thousands of years.
Love between men & boys was accepted in ancient Greece.
Not a fair comparison to the present day in the least. What we consider to be high school age or younger was considered marrying age back then, because people didn't have the luxury of expecting to live past their 30th birthday. A child by law today may not have been so back then.
Also, I'm unable to find information regarding man-boy sex, besides slavery situations. I've found articles referencing having sex with a young child (male or female) was a capital crime in ancient Greece and Rome, but nothing about mainstream pedophilia. Any reference material you can provide?
NAMBLA is an organization that promotes this today; they are the forerunners of the liberation of pedophelia, just like the homosexual rights movements before them.
Simply having an organization means very little. There's a European animal rights group that advocates murdering politicians who refuse to become vegetarians. Does that make their cause "the next big thing?" Hardly. Heck, I've never heard of that organization until I started posting on this site.
If a society starts to justify sin, where does it end? There was a time when society KNEW homosexual sex was wrong, as well as pedophilia. Now, society is justifying homosexual sin. We as a society KNOW pedophilia is wrong. Just like we knew homosexual sex was wrong.
With all due respect, Rick, I have to disagree with the same reasoning as before. Homosexual sex, sinful as it may be to you and as disgusting as it might seem to most straight people, does not inflict harm on society. Homosexuals raising kids does not damage the youth of our country, nor will it cause the destruction of religion as a whole. Simply put, there is nothing that anyone has ever brought forth to show that homosexual sex, marriage, or parenthood hurts anyone involved any more than straight sex, marriage, and parenthood (or not involved, for that matter).
Pedophilia, on the other hand, is clearly an ultra-destructive act that undoubtedly would harm the youth in this country in innumerable ways. That's the difference.
Homosexual marriage and child-raising are far more comparable to interracial marriage. At one time (not so very long ago), the very concept of interracial marriage was disgusting, vile, even
sinful in the conservative religious crowd. The exact same arguments against interracial marriage were used against homosexual marriage. And guess what? Those reasons were BS then, and they are just as BS now.
Ahem...strictly speaking, pedophelia is - in most cases - a form of homosexuality.
Again, care to cite anything for this? You might be right (I wouldn't be shocked). Though I think that you might be taking it a step too far by likening pedophilia towards boys as being homosexual in nature.
Yep! And have you noticed how a liberal/tolerant and open-minded person like Ivellious balked at the idea of legalized polygamy? There will come a day - and it is already here - where polygamy is accepted in our societies. Social and demographic pressures will make it legal in Europe in the not-too-distant future. You Americans are still a backward nation in this respect, but don't worry! you'll evolve!
Perhaps you are right. I'm not up to date on the political climate of Europe as it pertains to polygamy, honestly. And, with Mormons finally getting a sliver of respect from many conservative Americans thanks to Mitt Romney, who knows, I might be underestimating how far that sect can get with legalizing polygamy. We'll just have to see. I still stand by the statement I made about polygamist societies having a long history of child sexual abuse in the US (mainly toward girls, for the record). That will be a tough obstacle to overcome, in my opinion. But we'll see.
Judging culture my foot! We're not talking about judging a culture where they eat bugs. We're talking about sexual slavery of children.
Very true.
As an American, I think it's absolutely horrible that Americans condoned and justified slavery for hundreds of years before our nation took steps to rid ourselves of this evil.
To be fair, slavery was not a purely American thing. It had gone on in human societies and cultures for thousands of years before a few hundred years ago when the western world started to come to its senses and drop it. But regardless, your point is valid. Judging is a little more acceptable in this case, considering what's at stake.
