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Re: Acts 10, "kill and eat"
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 10:25 am
by RickD
Christian2 wrote:RickD wrote:
Peter lived like the Gentiles. Gentiles didn't have food laws that the Jews had. So, part of Peter's living like the Gentiles, was his eating like the Gentiles.
Eating with Gentiles does not mean Peter ate un-Kosher food with them. When Jesus fed the 4,000 the 4,000 included Gentiles. They ate bread and fish.
I don't believe Jesus would have eaten un-kosher food and I don't believe Peter or Paul did either.
So, when Peter and Jesus went to Gentile homes, they brought their Thermos and lunch boxes with them so they could eat their "kosher" foods?
Think about what you're saying. Peter would eat with Gentiles in their homes, all the while professing that they are no longer unclean. But, Peter would be a rude guest, by refusing the Gentile's food that they prepared for him in their home? By not eating their food because it would be unclean, Peter would have essentially been saying that the Gentiles were unclean for eating unclean food. You can't have it both ways. Either God told Peter in his vision that Gentiles were not unclean, or God meant something else.
I don't believe Jesus would have eaten un-kosher food and I don't believe Peter or Paul did either.
You say you don't believe that, but where does scripture say what you're saying?
You have to keep in mind that it's not just the food itself that's kosher. How the food is prepared, and even who prepares it, determines if it is kosher.
Peter was rebuked by Paul for his hypocrisy. Peter lived like the Gentiles not like the Jews. You must understand that by living like the Gentiles, Peter would not be following food cleanliness laws that were NOT given to the Gentiles.
Read Galatians 2. It's clear.
Re: Acts 10, "kill and eat"
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:16 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Christian2 wrote:How unkind of you to say the things you said to me. I will not return the insults.
My comments were for Christians who have adopted the allegorical/mystical method of biblical interpretation; my comments were also directed at those in the secular world who have been seduced by Eastern mysticism. Both groups have abandoned critical thinking and have replaced it with emotion, charisma and ecstatic ideals that depend on a guru or a secret key to understanding. Hogwash!
In the case in point, Acts 10:13, the context is clearly about food, food, and nothing else but food; the
corollary information transmitted by this passage is that God is sovereign and can declare anything - and anyone - clean. To say that the word food in Acts 10:13 is a code for Gentiles is just silly.
So,
Christian2, you are on the wrong path. Your error is confirmed by the fact that
1stjohn0666 agrees with you, as he is known to be a cultist. Heck!
1stjohn0666 even is on record as saying that the Koran is valid!
FL
Re: Acts 10, "kill and eat"
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:34 am
by RickD
FL wrote:
So, Christian2, you are on the wrong path. Your error is confirmed by the fact that 1stjohn0666 agrees with you, as he is known to be a cultist. Heck! 1stjohn0666 even is on record as saying that the Koran is valid!
Actually FL, I think 1stjohn was disagreeing with Christian2.
Re: Acts 10, "kill and eat"
Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2013 11:41 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
1stjohn0666 wrote:If God had said all meat is clean, I believe God. For one to change what has been accustomed to them by tradition or law, it is quite a difficult process for change. Having been a former 7th day Adventist, I found it really weird not keeping the 7th day (Saturday) holy to God. After some time, it was no problem. My "Sabbath" is now in Christ
Well...you are right! It was
PaulSacramento who agrees with
Christian2. (Apologies to
1stjohn0666) (As for
PaulSacramento, well, he's Canadian
)
FL