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Re: What if Jesus stayed on Earth?

Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 12:18 am
by 1over137
B.W., you mentioned Barna group studies and also attitude of some "Christians". Since I read now Luke and think following verses are appropriate here I will post them:

Luke 6:27-36
27 “But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who [o]mistreat you. 29 Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your [p]coat, do not withhold your [q]shirt from him either. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. 31 [r]Treat others the same way you want them to treat you. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount. 35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, [t]expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

Re: What if Jesus stayed on Earth?

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 10:46 pm
by B. W.
1over137 wrote:B.W., you mentioned Barna group studies and also attitude of some "Christians". Since I read now Luke and think following verses are appropriate here I will post them:

Luke 6:27-36
27 “But I say to you who hear, love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, 28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who [o]mistreat you. 29 Whoever hits you on the cheek, offer him the other also; and whoever takes away your [p]coat, do not withhold your [q]shirt from him either. 30 Give to everyone who asks of you, and whoever takes away what is yours, do not demand it back. 31 [r]Treat others the same way you want them to treat you. 32 If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners love those who love them. 33 If you do good to those who do good to you, what credit is that to you? For even sinners do the same. 34 If you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners in order to receive back the same amount. 35 But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, [t]expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men. 36 Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.


Yes, thank you Hana... this was the point and conviction for us all who follow Christ. Ulimate, indirectly uncovered this and I was addressing it. Fact is, Jesus is still here today within believers - the problem is with us because we don't listen.

And for Ultimate - I was thanking you for pointing this out and for your question that uncover this...

To answer your original question - well listen to what Jesus said:

John 16:7, Nevertheless I tell you the truth. It is to your advantage that I go away; for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you; but if I depart, I will send Him to you. NKJV

Which goes back to the points I made on this thread.

Again Thank You Ultimate ...
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Re: What if Jesus stayed on Earth?

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2013 12:08 am
by 1over137
And I thank you B.W. Now am reading the book unChristian. Very recommend others to read it as well.