Evidence for God from Science

To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget, whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again, and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself – that was the ultimate subtlety; consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink.

The power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them... To tell deliberate lies while genuinely believing in them, to forget any fact that has become inconvenient, and then, when it becomes necessary again, to draw it back from oblivion for just as long as it is needed, to deny the existence of objective reality and all the while to take account of the reality which one denies – all this is indispensably necessary. Even in using the word doublethink it is necessary to exercise doublethink. For by using the word one admits that one is tampering with reality; by a fresh act of doublethink one erases this knowledge; and so on indefinitely, with the lie always one leap ahead of the truth.

Danieltwotwenty wrote: You can believe what is written in the Bible and still believe that God guided the Evolutionary process.

Sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned
(Romans 5:12 ESV)

When you use the Bible as a science book you have missed the whole point of it, the Bible is the why not the how.

theophilus wrote:
According to the evolutionary process the first life forms died off to be replaced with others. This means that there was death in the world before Adam was created. This contradicts what the Bible says.

So, there was NO death whatsoever before Adam and Eve sinned?

Philip wrote:What about plant death? Plants are living things.

RickD wrote:Can someone else please respond to this one? I'm afraid I've beaten this poor horse to death.

theophilus wrote:According to the evolutionary process the first life forms died off to be replaced with others. This means that there was death in the world before Adam was created. This contradicts what the Bible says.

I am using the Bible as a history book. It tells us what happened and how long it took.

Jac3510 wrote:

Philip wrote:What about plant death? Plants are living things.

If I may quote an eminent scholar on this matter:

RickD wrote:Can someone else please respond to this one? I'm afraid I've beaten this poor horse to death.

I really wish both sides would stop producing straw men.

Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:I'm an eminem scholar.

FL

RickD wrote: I used to work at an M & M factory. I got fired for throwing away all the W's.

Philip wrote:

So, there was NO death whatsoever before Adam and Eve sinned?

So what did they all of those carnivores eat? Tofu? What about plant death? Plants are living things.

PaulSacramento wrote:Indeed, hence my question....