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Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:47 am
by UsagiTsukino
It's not a sin for Christians to eat meat. Many did eat meat in the bible. God even made rules

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:05 am
by PaulSacramento
It is important to understand that in the end, we will not need to eat at all ( though we still will be able to just like Jesus still did after His resurrection).
As for now though, there is NO prohibition in the OT Laws ( all over 600 of them) against eating meat and fish OTHER THAN CERTAIN types and that ( it can be argued) was/is only applicable to Jews.
Paul mentions that for a Christian eating anything (except driving/eating blood) is OK UNLESS it may stumble those of weaker faith that maybe present.
So...

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:48 am
by Philip
It is important to understand that in the end, we will not need to eat at all ( though we still will be able to just like Jesus still did after His resurrection)
Paul, I don't understand.

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:59 am
by PaulSacramento
Philip wrote:
It is important to understand that in the end, we will not need to eat at all ( though we still will be able to just like Jesus still did after His resurrection)
Paul, I don't understand.
I don't think our resurrected bodies will have need of food like they do now.

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 11:31 am
by Philip
I don't think our resurrected bodies will have need of food like they do now.
NEEDING food and enjoying food can be two different things.

And this: "On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine - the best of meats and the finest of wines" (Isaiah 25:6)

Physical bodies are created to enjoy physical pleasures - and God delights in our enjoyment of things He created for such pleasures. We will be PHYSICALLY resurrected with new, glorified and yes, PHYSICAL, bodies. Why would a physical body not be created to enjoy physical things. And to go along with our new, physical bodies will be the new Heaven merged with the restored, purified earth - an incredible physical place in which our future, resurrected bodies will be designed to inhabit. There are many PHYSICAL things and pleasures described about the Heaven (and New Earth) to come - why would physical pleasures like sharing deliscious foods and beverages nt also be included?

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:06 pm
by PaulSacramento
Philip wrote:
I don't think our resurrected bodies will have need of food like they do now.
NEEDING food and enjoying food can be two different things.

And this: "On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine - the best of meats and the finest of wines" (Isaiah 25:6)

Physical bodies are created to enjoy physical pleasures - and God delights in our enjoyment of things He created for such pleasures. We will be PHYSICALLY resurrected with new, glorified and yes, PHYSICAL, bodies. Why would a physical body not be created to enjoy physical things. And to go along with our new, physical bodies will be the new Heaven merged with the restored, purified earth - an incredible physical place in which our future, resurrected bodies will be designed to inhabit. There are many PHYSICAL things and pleasures described about the Heaven (and New Earth) to come - why would physical pleasures like sharing delicious foods and beverages nt also be included?
Fair point.
I just don't think that immortal bodies would need anything as crude as "food" like we need now.
I think that imagery of "banquet tables" and such in heaven is just that imagery BUT if I am wrong I am certainly OK with that !
I just don't think angelic beings need food like we do and that since our resurrected bodies will not be of blood but only flesh and bone, that we won't need food like we do now.
Immortal beings don't need food, if they needed that means they would die without it hence, not be immortal.
Of course we CAN eat, just like Christ did, again I just don't think we will have to.

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:49 pm
by Lonewolf
LOL @ frankenchicken and moo's no more y~:> y3:-O y[-X
Perhaps merely an urban legend, but I heard that before naming their hamburger business, "MacDonalds," the founders considered the name, "Moos No More," but thought it sounded too negative, too anti-cow.
Nah, ptc, that's too implausible. Now, KFC's Frankenchicken ... that has the ring of troof!

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 7:01 pm
by Lonewolf
PaulSacramento wrote: Fair point.
I just don't think that immortal bodies would need anything as crude as "food" like we need now.
I think that imagery of "banquet tables" and such in heaven is just that imagery BUT if I am wrong I am certainly OK with that !
I just don't think angelic beings need food like we do and that since our resurrected bodies will not be of blood but only flesh and bone, that we won't need food like we do now.
Immortal beings don't need food, if they needed that means they would die without it hence, not be immortal.
Of course we CAN eat, just like Christ did, again I just don't think we will have to.
Pablo :scratch:

Why or where in scripture does it teach that our new bodies will be devoid of blood or any other physical component? Are we not to be made whole again?

I'm sure the eating part will not be like a necessity for an immortal body, but eating itself would not make one neither mortal nor immortal.

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:43 pm
by Philip
Immortal beings don't need food, if they needed that means they would die without it hence, not be immortal.
Of course we CAN eat, just like Christ did, again I just don't think we will have to.
Well, I'm SURE there won't be any golden arches in Heaven - thank the Lord!

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Mon Jul 07, 2014 9:00 pm
by neo-x
Ah come on! we all want bacon and chicken in heaven. That is all this debate is about. :mrgreen:

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:49 am
by PaulSacramento
Lonewolf wrote:
PaulSacramento wrote: Fair point.
I just don't think that immortal bodies would need anything as crude as "food" like we need now.
I think that imagery of "banquet tables" and such in heaven is just that imagery BUT if I am wrong I am certainly OK with that !
I just don't think angelic beings need food like we do and that since our resurrected bodies will not be of blood but only flesh and bone, that we won't need food like we do now.
Immortal beings don't need food, if they needed that means they would die without it hence, not be immortal.
Of course we CAN eat, just like Christ did, again I just don't think we will have to.
Pablo :scratch:

Why or where in scripture does it teach that our new bodies will be devoid of blood or any other physical component? Are we not to be made whole again?

I'm sure the eating part will not be like a necessity for an immortal body, but eating itself would not make one neither mortal nor immortal.
Christ said His body ( which ours will be like) is flesh and bones.
No mention of blood at all.
As for eating, like I mentioned before, we will be able to, just as Christ did, but I don't think we will need to.

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 4:59 am
by 1over137
Christ said His body ( which ours will be like) is flesh and bones.
No mention of blood at all.
As for eating, like I mentioned before, we will be able to, just as Christ did, but I don't think we will need to.
Is brain flesh? What about my nails? :shock:

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2014 5:08 am
by PaulSacramento
1over137 wrote:
Christ said His body ( which ours will be like) is flesh and bones.
No mention of blood at all.
As for eating, like I mentioned before, we will be able to, just as Christ did, but I don't think we will need to.
Is brain flesh? What about my nails? :shock:
What does Christ say?
"And He said to them, "Why are you troubled, and why do doubts arise in your hearts? 39 "See My hands and My feet, that it is I Myself; touch Me and see, for a spirit does not have flesh and bones as you see that I have." (Luke 24:38-39).

And Paul:
http://www.reasonablefaith.org/jesus-body


IMO, our resurrected bodies will be like Christ's, flesh and bone but no blood because it will be a "spiritual based" body and instead of blood what will flow through our "veins and arteries" will by "spirit energy" ( for lack of a better word).

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:34 pm
by UsagiTsukino
I think u have it real Jesus does talk about eating meat and that's it's not a sin.

Re: Christians should not eat meat

Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2014 12:38 pm
by UsagiTsukino
The New Testament records that Jesus did eat the Passover feast, which would include the eating of the roasted lamb (Luke 22:14-15). In fact, before the last Passover meal, Jesus specifically instructs his disciples to prepare the meal, including the lamb, for their observance.