Evidence for God from Science

crochet1949 wrote:A persons' mind is 'renewed' through reading God's Word / Christian literature / It Does make a difference in our attitudes - what we put into our minds -- through reading material , TV shows, movies we watch, the music we listen to.

1 Co 15:33 NKJV, "Do not be deceived: "Evil company corrupts good habits."
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B. W. wrote:

crochet1949 wrote:A persons' mind is 'renewed' through reading God's Word / Christian literature / It Does make a difference in our attitudes - what we put into our minds -- through reading material , TV shows, movies we watch, the music we listen to.

1 Co 15:33 NKJV, "Do not be deceived: "Evil company corrupts good habits."
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Yes, the people we hang out with Do affect us. Good point. Thanks for sharing that verse. 'Good' tends to be brought Down rather than 'Down' being pulled Up.

Question about Matt 7:24-27, the parable of the wise and foolish builder. One builds on sand while the other builds on rock. When the wind and waves come, the house built on the rock withstands destruction, but the house on the sand is destroyed. Is the withstanding of the storm referring to eschatological judgement or life's trials?

Ottoman wrote:Question about Matt 7:24-27, the parable of the wise and foolish builder. One builds on sand while the other builds on rock. When the wind and waves come, the house built on the rock withstands destruction, but the house on the sand is destroyed. Is the withstanding of the storm referring to eschatological judgement or life's trials?

Life's trials. That's been my understanding.

Same here. I did some more digging and that seems to be the common answer I am finding. If I am wrong, please someone correct me.

JESUS is the Rock!

Philip wrote:JESUS is the Rock!

The Rock That Makes Me Roll
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oh_JaAQLjUM

I have another question. Are we to believe IN Jesus Christ for salvation or ON Jesus Christ? Do they mean the same thing? Thanks.

interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

bbyrd009 wrote:interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

The law is not to be fulfilled. Jesus already fulfilled the law.

RickD wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

The law is not to be fulfilled. Jesus already fulfilled the law.

well, wadr i disagree,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself; this fullfills the Law and the Prophets.


and again, the "broken stick" is a clue. If your root is in Law, your tree, or the part above ground, the part that flowers and fruits, might be said to be manifesting in Grace (once God is understood to be a Creative Force, a planter of trees to be nourished and grown, and not some OT punishment-happy monster), your particular kind of fruit, RickD fruit, since who wants a garden full of one kind of fruit?

bbyrd009 wrote:

RickD wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

The law is not to be fulfilled. Jesus already fulfilled the law.

well, wadr i disagree,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself; this fullfills the Law and the Prophets.

So, you're saying that Jesus failed to completely fulfill the law?

RickD wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:

RickD wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

The law is not to be fulfilled. Jesus already fulfilled the law.

well, wadr i disagree,
Love your neighbor as you love yourself; this fullfills the Law and the Prophets.

So, you're saying that Jesus failed to completely fulfill the law?

do you have a Witness for that, RickD? Christ fulfilling the Law, and negating "Love your neighbor?" Christ is our High Priest, yes? And we are all Priests?

pick up your Cross, and follow Me

but i would certainly also agree that Christ fulfilled the Law, sure!

bbyrd009 wrote:interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

Without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sins.So where is your blood sacrifice? Remember Cain and Abel and the sacrifice God accepted?Mine is Jesus the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. You cannot ignore blood sacrifice and say you are fulfilling or living by the law,you must live out all of it,which no man can do,but Jesus did for us.

God's Blood
https://www.google.com/search?sclient=t ... JWU9sAwewY

Breaking the Law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEy6ThJwE3s

abelcainsbrother wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:interesting to note that apparently the Shabbat will be kept in the Kingdom.

Jesus did not go to Synagogue looking for His Apostles; but rather to Fishermen; a historically rough bunch.
Meaning that they may have had Torah memorized, orally; but fishermen did not write back then.

@ "only Grace saves," one might reflect upon the two sticks, broken, that must be put back together?
Law is, after all, to be fulfilled, not abrogated.

Without the shedding of blood there can be no remission of sins.So where is your blood sacrifice? Remember Cain and Abel and the sacrifice God accepted?Mine is Jesus the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world. You cannot ignore blood sacrifice and say you are fulfilling or living by the law,you must live out all of it,which no man can do,but Jesus did for us.

God's Blood
https://www.google.com/search?sclient=t ... JWU9sAwewY

Breaking the Law
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEy6ThJwE3s

well, "Cain and Abel" is just another analogy that you can use to understand how you are "two men in a bed;" and the lesson there might be understood to be more about how a seeker seeks, Abel as a Shepherd being the acceptable way, or Cain (you, as an Adult), killing your Abel in favor of plowing your own ground (self-help, following Law), although there are surely other lessons in the parable, i guess.

So, i am not meaning to advocate "living by the Law" here, understand, but that you must pick up your cross, and follow Christ, as Scripture tells us, and fulfill the Law, when you love your neighbor as yourself, which let's admit is no easy task, yet is the only way to follow Christ. Any other way ends up being the worship of "a Snake on a Pole," or Nehushtan worship, which Scripture has preserved the fate of Nehushtan for us, in Kings somewhere, i think, just search it, it only occurs once in Scripture, i believe.

i am led to say here that when you accept Christ as your Passover Lamb, you have effectively walked through through the Door covered in Blood, and out of Egypt (bondage), so to speak, a Free Man; as the million + Hebrews did. Yet it is important to note that only 2 of them made it to the Promised Land! (with a 3rst, for a Witness, that being Moses, a type of Christ) These two are both you, of course. And yes, many of the Wanderers descendants also made it to the PL--and went on to worship Nehushtan; so that lesson should not be ignored, imo.