Re: More facts
Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:28 pm
I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus has the keys to life, and death. father is who say can, and can't go to Jesus...John 6:44
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Do you believe Jesus is God?Domenic wrote:I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus has the keys to life, and death. father is who say can, and can't go to Jesus...John 6:44
1 Colossians 1:15 "He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of all creation. 16 because by means of him all other things were created in heaven, and on earth."RickD wrote:Do you believe Jesus is God?Domenic wrote:I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus has the keys to life, and death. father is who say can, and can't go to Jesus...John 6:44
GOD is my Redeemer., there is no one else TrueDomenic wrote:...Would you like me to prove your religion false? If so, just give me a list of things you believe.
No, that doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask if Jesus was the Father. I asked you if you believe Jesus is God.Domenic wrote:1 Colossians 1:15 "He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of all creation. 16 because by means of him all other things were created in heaven, and on earth."RickD wrote:Do you believe Jesus is God?Domenic wrote:I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus has the keys to life, and death. father is who say can, and can't go to Jesus...John 6:44
Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Do you think there is a difference?RickD wrote:No, that doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask if Jesus was the Father. I asked you if you believe Jesus is God.Domenic wrote:1 Colossians 1:15 "He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of all creation. 16 because by means of him all other things were created in heaven, and on earth."RickD wrote:Do you believe Jesus is God?Domenic wrote:I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus has the keys to life, and death. father is who say can, and can't go to Jesus...John 6:44
Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Are you having trouble answering? It's not difficult. Do you believe Jesus Christ is God, or not?Domenic wrote:Do you think there is a difference?RickD wrote:No, that doesn't answer my question. I didn't ask if Jesus was the Father. I asked you if you believe Jesus is God.Domenic wrote:1 <a class="rtBibleRef" href="http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/Colossians%201.15" data-reference="Colossians 1.15" data-version="nasb95" data-purpose="bible-reference" target="_blank">Colossians 1:15</a> "He is the image of the invisible God, the first born of all creation. 16 because by means of him all other things were created in heaven, and on earth."RickD wrote:Do you believe Jesus is God?Domenic wrote:I do not believe in the trinity. Jesus has the keys to life, and death. father is who say can, and can't go to Jesus...<a class="rtBibleRef" href="http://biblia.com/bible/nasb95/John%206.44" data-reference="John 6.44" data-version="nasb95" data-purpose="bible-reference" target="_blank">John 6:44</a>
Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Domenic, if you think Jesus is not God, look at the Bible verses here please http://www.bugman123.com/Bible/JesusIsGod.htmlDomenic wrote:No I 'm not having trouble answering. But it seem you are having trouble understanding my reply. I said;
"Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Let me break that down for you.
God is the Father. Father was never born.
Jesus was born.
If father was never born, and Jesus was born...that would mean they are not the same person.
You are avoiding an answer. You already said you don't believe in the Trinity. Trinitarians believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God, and are all separate persons.Domenic wrote:No I 'm not having trouble answering. But it seem you are having trouble understanding my reply. I said;
"Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Let me break that down for you.
God is the Father. Father was never born.
Jesus was born.
If father was never born, and Jesus was born...that would mean they are not the same person.
Does Jesus have the title God? Yes...Satan also has the Title God. The Bible says there are many Gods, and many Lords.RickD wrote:You are avoiding an answer. You already said you don't believe in the Trinity. Trinitarians believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God, and are all separate persons.Domenic wrote:No I 'm not having trouble answering. But it seem you are having trouble understanding my reply. I said;
"Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Let me break that down for you.
God is the Father. Father was never born.
Jesus was born.
If father was never born, and Jesus was born...that would mean they are not the same person.
So, one can believe that Jesus is God, and Jesus is not the Father.
It seems like you are saying Jesus is NOT God. But since I don't want to wrongly assume what you're saying, I'd like you to answer directly with a simple yes or no answer, which you seem to be avoiding. Is Jesus Christ God? Yes or no?
There is one God, and one Lord. There are many gods and many lords. See the difference?Domenic wrote:Does Jesus have the title God? Yes...Satan also has the Title God. The Bible says there are many Gods, and many Lords.RickD wrote:You are avoiding an answer. You already said you don't believe in the Trinity. Trinitarians believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are all God, and are all separate persons.Domenic wrote:No I 'm not having trouble answering. But it seem you are having trouble understanding my reply. I said;
"Does this answer your question? Jesus is not the Father...God the father was never born. Jesus was.
Let me break that down for you.
God is the Father. Father was never born.
Jesus was born.
If father was never born, and Jesus was born...that would mean they are not the same person.
So, one can believe that Jesus is God, and Jesus is not the Father.
It seems like you are saying Jesus is NOT God. But since I don't want to wrongly assume what you're saying, I'd like you to answer directly with a simple yes or no answer, which you seem to be avoiding. Is Jesus Christ God? Yes or no?
Corinthians 8:5
There is only one God the Father. Jesus is the first born of all creation...I fail to see why you can't understand that?
You should read Colossians 1: 1-15. This explains that Jesus is the son of God the Father, The first born of all creations, and through Jesus, the first of all creation, all other things were created.1over137 wrote:I looked at 1 Corinthians 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
Hmm. Interesting.
And I have read this http://www.gotquestions.org/Jesus-Son-of-God.html about Jesus being the SonDomenic wrote:You should read Colossians 1: 1-15. This explains that Jesus is the son of God the Father, The first born of all creations, and through Jesus, the first of all creation, all other things were created.1over137 wrote:I looked at 1 Corinthians 8:6
6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.
Hmm. Interesting.