"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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It can be said in different ways, but there is definitely a common thread.TheQuestor wrote:The gospel, seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean..................Christian2 wrote:We know that "gospel" means good news.
What is the good news Jesus brought?
Thanks.
The gospel itself matters not nearly as much as the reactions that it produces in those who listen. Some hear that you must find a way at all cost to be your enemies friend, and this thought clearly has Earth and relationship building implications. However others hear nothing more, than, the Earth was built 5,000 years ago. So it is not the gospel, that matters, but he hand that we extend, that matters.Kurieuo wrote:It can be said in different ways, but there is definitely a common thread.TheQuestor wrote:The gospel, seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean..................Christian2 wrote:We know that "gospel" means good news.
What is the good news Jesus brought?
Thanks.
That's justs silly.TheQuestor wrote:The gospel, seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean..................Christian2 wrote:We know that "gospel" means good news.
What is the good news Jesus brought?
Thanks.
Jesus Christ. That's the gospel!So in this God announced that his previous works, were flawed? Why would God need a new, anything, when the first was perfect?Mallz wrote:The gospel announces the new covenant God created to reconcile humanity back through Him to Him
The first covenant was through the law. In order to fulfill the law a judiciary atonement was necessary, which was Christ taking the sins of the world away; Christ came and conquered sin. We do not go to hell for our sins, but for our unbelief. His previous works were not flawed, nor did He ever announce as such. His previous works were fulfilled with the new.So in this God announced that his previous works, were flawed? Why would God need a new, anything, when the first was perfect?
Just seems redundant, to me, that's all.
You have just expressed your thoughts and questions. Thus, I say again that the gospel seems to mean whatever one wants it to mean. Your meaning seems to be, "Does it mean it is ok to kill people? to rape and pillage? to hate?PaulSacramento wrote:That's justs silly.TheQuestor wrote:The gospel, seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean..................Christian2 wrote:We know that "gospel" means good news.
What is the good news Jesus brought?
Thanks.
Does it mean it is ok to kill people? to rape and pillage? to hate?
Of course not.
That the gospel can be expressed in different ways and has different parts that speak more to some people than others is perfectly normal.
The focus of the Gospel is Jesus and what He has done and continues to do for Us.
Can you really look to the world, and say that Christ came and conquered sin? In reality, since there are far more sinners now, than 2000 years ago, there is far more sin, and more ways to hate. You could say that Christ purpose, was to conquer sin and hate, but to say that he succeeded, is illogical.Mallz wrote:The first covenant was through the law. In order to fulfill the law a judiciary atonement was necessary, which was Christ taking the sins of the world away; Christ came and conquered sin. We do not go to hell for our sins, but for our unbelief. His previous works were not flawed, nor did He ever announce as such. His previous works were fulfilled with the new.So in this God announced that his previous works, were flawed? Why would God need a new, anything, when the first was perfect?
Just seems redundant, to me, that's all.
What makes you think 'the first was perfect'. What do you mean by this?
You misunderstand.Can you really look to the world, and say that Christ came and conquered sin? In reality, since there are far more sinners now, than 2000 years ago, there is far more sin, and more ways to hate. You could say that Christ purpose, was to conquer sin and hate, but to say that he succeeded, is illogical.
Actually, we are part of Gods first work, and we are perfect, and by the evolution that God gave to our frames, we become more perfect with every generation, as we use our minds to look, for our creator. Will we know him, if we see him? or as it is said, are we already built in his image?
You said the gospel can mean ANYTHING someone wants it to mean.TheQuestor wrote:You have just expressed your thoughts and questions. Thus, I say again that the gospel seems to mean whatever one wants it to mean. Your meaning seems to be, "Does it mean it is ok to kill people? to rape and pillage? to hate?PaulSacramento wrote:That's justs silly.TheQuestor wrote:The gospel, seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean..................Christian2 wrote:We know that "gospel" means good news.
What is the good news Jesus brought?
Thanks.
Does it mean it is ok to kill people? to rape and pillage? to hate?
Of course not.
That the gospel can be expressed in different ways and has different parts that speak more to some people than others is perfectly normal.
The focus of the Gospel is Jesus and what He has done and continues to do for Us.
Of course not.
That the gospel can be expressed in different ways and has different parts that speak more to some people than others is perfectly normal.
The focus of the Gospel is Jesus and what He has done and continues to do for Us."
My answer can not be wrong, as you have confirmed it, with your meaning.
Anyone can read the gospel, and interpret it as they see fit, and they do, or is there an iron fist that demands that all people believe the same things, in the same way?PaulSacramento wrote:You said the gospel can mean ANYTHING someone wants it to mean.TheQuestor wrote:You have just expressed your thoughts and questions. Thus, I say again that the gospel seems to mean whatever one wants it to mean. Your meaning seems to be, "Does it mean it is ok to kill people? to rape and pillage? to hate?PaulSacramento wrote:That's justs silly.TheQuestor wrote:The gospel, seems to mean whatever someone wants it to mean..................Christian2 wrote:We know that "gospel" means good news.
What is the good news Jesus brought?
Thanks.
Does it mean it is ok to kill people? to rape and pillage? to hate?
Of course not.
That the gospel can be expressed in different ways and has different parts that speak more to some people than others is perfectly normal.
The focus of the Gospel is Jesus and what He has done and continues to do for Us.
Of course not.
That the gospel can be expressed in different ways and has different parts that speak more to some people than others is perfectly normal.
The focus of the Gospel is Jesus and what He has done and continues to do for Us."
My answer can not be wrong, as you have confirmed it, with your meaning.
I showed it it can't.
The Gospel can NOT mean what it IS NOT.
No amount of wanting by anyone can make the Gospel mean something it isn't.
Mallz wrote:You misunderstand.Can you really look to the world, and say that Christ came and conquered sin? In reality, since there are far more sinners now, than 2000 years ago, there is far more sin, and more ways to hate. You could say that Christ purpose, was to conquer sin and hate, but to say that he succeeded, is illogical.
1 Corinthians 15:55-57 (NKJV)
55 “O Death, where is your sting?[a]
O Hades, where is your victory?”
56 The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law. 57 But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
Actually, we are part of Gods first work, and we are perfect, and by the evolution that God gave to our frames, we become more perfect with every generation, as we use our minds to look, for our creator. Will we know him, if we see him? or as it is said, are we already built in his image?
How are we perfect? We are sinners. And as you accurately point out: 'In reality, since there are far more sinners now, than 2000 years ago, there is far more sin, and more ways to hate'
How do we become more perfect when we become more sinful?
We are built as the image of God, but we are in a corrupted state, and sinful and worthy of destruction. It is only Gods love and grace for us that lets us have life, through our God Lord and Savior Jesus Christ who came in the flesh and died for the sins of the world.
Do you agree with the underlined?
Yes, anyone can interpret the bible anyway they like IN LIGHT of what it actually says.TheQuestor wrote:
Anyone can read the gospel, and interpret it as they see fit, and they do, or is there an iron fist that demands that all people believe the same things, in the same way?