Re: Forgiveness for demons?
Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:24 am
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
https://discussions.godandscience.org/
Is this website a joke? I can't tell if they're serious, or trying to be funny. For instance, is this serious?
BOYCE and BOICE are two demons that interfere with any electronic equipment, i.e., phone, computer, printer, automobile, etc. If something malfunctions, command these two demons to leave your equipment, in the name of Jesus. We get many emails saying this worked. If it does not work, demons are not causing the problem.
For all of the understandings that the demonic is exceedingly clever and we must always be on guard against its schemes, it also strikes me as being incredibly deluded and just plain stupid - as one would imagine they would by now realize that they are powerless over God, that their fate is sealed, that they know that their strategies to bring Him down will never work because they CAN'T ever work. They, even more than we, well know God is all powerful and sovereign over all of His creations - fallen and saved. They have brilliantly deceived themselves, perhaps, most of all.the demons continue to exploit and game God's nature and goodness in order to entrap God to act contrary to who and what God is - GOD. This is done with the intent to prove God is not God absolute so that they end up ruling over God. So a debate as this is but one example of how demons seek to play God's mercy against itself in order to entrap God through human agents.
RickD wrote:Is this website a joke? I can't tell if they're serious, or trying to be funny. For instance, is this serious?
BOYCE and BOICE are two demons that interfere with any electronic equipment, i.e., phone, computer, printer, automobile, etc. If something malfunctions, command these two demons to leave your equipment, in the name of Jesus. We get many emails saying this worked. If it does not work, demons are not causing the problem.
Thanks Rick, if you can point out what is unscriptural in the link above, please let me know, as I am very interested in reading more on this prophet called false by the bulk of established religions.RickD wrote: Starhunter wrote
http://www.gilead.net/egw/books/misc/Pa ... itted-.htm
FYI, Ellen G White was a false prophet.
I'll leave Rick to answer this, as I would like to know what was un-scriptural about the page in the link you sent me (if it is at all), which I found informative. The best disinformationalist will tell the truth 98% of the time. It's the last 2% of deadly misinformation that can change the whole message.Thanks Rick, if you can point out what is unscriptural in the link above, please let me know, as I am very interested in reading more on this prophet called false by the bulk of established religions.
To keep on track with this thread..It does, at least, make you wonder about what's behind all the problems in this world
Really?PaulSacramento wrote:I have never been convinced of the whole "satan is the ruler of this world" thing.
Never made any sense to me.
The "world" never refers to the roman empire?Jac3510 wrote:Really?PaulSacramento wrote:I have never been convinced of the whole "satan is the ruler of this world" thing.
Never made any sense to me.
You might find this article helpful in looking at just what all that means. Clearly Satan's rule is not absolute, but scriptural language is pretty clear on the matter at least in terms of the basic proposition. I, for one, don't think it is sufficient to limit Jesus' comments to the Roman Empire, since John later writes that "the whole world lies in the power of the evil one" (1 John 5:19).* Again, probably better to work on understanding how and to what extent Satan rules this world rather than trying to find a way to deny that he actually does.
- Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. (2 Cor 4:4)
Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. (John 12:31, which you referenced)
*edit: besides, I don't think the word "world" ever refers to "the Roman Empire" . . . that's something of a linguistic stretch, to put it mildly.
Mallz wrote:To keep on track with this thread..It does, at least, make you wonder about what's behind all the problems in this world
satan is in rule of this world with his demons. Yes, we have a sinful nature. But add our sinful nature with the legions of demons working to tear as many humans away from El-Shaddai as possible and we have our predicament. It's pretty horrific, don't you think?
If semantics matter, the word in Luke is different from the word Jesus and Paul used. I stand by my original comment.PaulSacramento wrote:The "world" never refers to the roman empire?Jac3510 wrote:Really?PaulSacramento wrote:I have never been convinced of the whole "satan is the ruler of this world" thing.
Never made any sense to me.
You might find this article helpful in looking at just what all that means. Clearly Satan's rule is not absolute, but scriptural language is pretty clear on the matter at least in terms of the basic proposition. I, for one, don't think it is sufficient to limit Jesus' comments to the Roman Empire, since John later writes that "the whole world lies in the power of the evil one" (1 John 5:19).* Again, probably better to work on understanding how and to what extent Satan rules this world rather than trying to find a way to deny that he actually does.
- Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don't believe. (2 Cor 4:4)
Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out. (John 12:31, which you referenced)
*edit: besides, I don't think the word "world" ever refers to "the Roman Empire" . . . that's something of a linguistic stretch, to put it mildly.
Luke 2 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
Jesus’ Birth in Bethlehem
2 Now in those days a decree went out from Caesar Augustus, that a census be taken of all the inhabited earth.
Pretty sure "all the inhabited earth" means the Roman Empire.
In Romans 1:8 when Paul says:
First, I thank my God through Jesus Christ for you all, because your faith is being proclaimed throughout the whole world.
We know he didn't mean the entire planet and we know that, at the time, the Gospel was being preached pretty much in all the Roman empire.
As for the " god of this world" and "prince of this world", I have no problem in Jesus meaning the WHOLE world of course, BUT I am open to the possibility that he meant the Roman Empire in specific at the time.