"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Do you think man's greatest possible sin is pretending to speak for God? The size of one's ego to make such a presumption!Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
Existence has always existed. What is your proof of non-existence ever occuring other than just the delusion of it inside your mind?Silvertusk wrote: That is quite an assertion - care to back that up with some evidence? Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
Besides do you realise what you saying? How can you have proof of non-existence in the first place - by definition there should be no proof which ironically lends itself to evidence of non-existence anyway.
Yeah, the ignorant mortal comment was pretty non-Christian like. I totally agree with you about the wisdom of Christ. That's why I like reading the Jefferson Bible. It's very interesting to read accounts of Jesus without the supernatural.HappyFlappyDeist wrote:This is one of the most profoundly ignorant things I've ever read.Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
Georges Lemaitre is one of the most intelligent men in human history and it's an incredible insult to describe such a man as ignorant. His writings are beyond his time, his mathematics are nigh inhuman, his work gave meaning to Einstein's relativity in cosmology, and his work inspired many scientific laws in effect today. You know absolutely nothing of the brilliance of Lemaitre and you, I'm sure, are in no position to deem such a brilliant man "ignorant." It's disgusting, it's truly disgusting. Calling Lemaitre ignorant is about as sensical as calling Christ unwise.
Somebody asked me why I'm a deist, this is part why. Such blind, unfounded, ignorance present in theism.
Please explain using your superior understanding of mathematics and astrophysics how Lemaitre is "unknowledgeable or uneducated" (The definition of ignorant)
Intelligence does not guarantee immunity to ignorance does it? If you say yes, then you are not only ignorant, but...something completely else as well. Just don't say yes.HappyFlappyDeist wrote:This is one of the most profoundly ignorant things I've ever read.Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
Georges Lemaitre is one of the most intelligent men in human history and it's an incredible insult to describe such a man as ignorant. His writings are beyond his time, his mathematics are nigh inhuman, his work gave meaning to Einstein's relativity in cosmology, and his work inspired many scientific laws in effect today. You know absolutely nothing of the brilliance of Lemaitre and you, I'm sure, are in no position to deem such a brilliant man "ignorant." It's disgusting, it's truly disgusting. Calling Lemaitre ignorant is about as sensical as calling Christ unwise.
Somebody asked me why I'm a deist, this is part why. Such blind, unfounded, ignorance present in theism.
Please explain using your superior understanding of mathematics and astrophysics how Lemaitre is "unknowledgeable or uneducated" (The definition of ignorant)
I agree, what a presumptuous and egotistical job to make up the BB theory!dfnj wrote:Do you think man's greatest possible sin is pretending to speak for God? The size of one's ego to make such a presumption!Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
The question is a loaded one, I suspect when I wrote yes I'd get something similar to- "exactly, he's just an ignorant human."Starhunter wrote:Intelligence does not guarantee immunity to ignorance does it? If you say yes, then you are not only ignorant, but...something completely else as well. Just don't say yes.HappyFlappyDeist wrote:This is one of the most profoundly ignorant things I've ever read.Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
Georges Lemaitre is one of the most intelligent men in human history and it's an incredible insult to describe such a man as ignorant. His writings are beyond his time, his mathematics are nigh inhuman, his work gave meaning to Einstein's relativity in cosmology, and his work inspired many scientific laws in effect today. You know absolutely nothing of the brilliance of Lemaitre and you, I'm sure, are in no position to deem such a brilliant man "ignorant." It's disgusting, it's truly disgusting. Calling Lemaitre ignorant is about as sensical as calling Christ unwise.
Somebody asked me why I'm a deist, this is part why. Such blind, unfounded, ignorance present in theism.
Please explain using your superior understanding of mathematics and astrophysics how Lemaitre is "unknowledgeable or uneducated" (The definition of ignorant)
-http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/02/opini ... .html?_r=0In January 1933, Lemaître and Einstein, who had met on several occasions—in 1927 in Brussels, at the time of a Solvay Conference, in 1932 in Belgium, at the time of a cycle of conferences in Brussels and lastly in 1935 at Princeton—traveled together to the U.S. state of California for a series of seminars. After the Belgian detailed his theory, Einstein stood up, applauded, and is supposed to have said, "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened."
Wait a bit longer.Storyteller wrote:God said let there be light, and there was light.
Now where have I heard that?
Wait! This huge explosion of light and energy. A big bang.
Do you think its laziness, or incapacity? Maybe those are the same thing in this case..dfnj wrote:Yeah, the ignorant mortal comment was pretty non-Christian like. I totally agree with you about the wisdom of Christ. That's why I like reading the Jefferson Bible. It's very interesting to read accounts of Jesus without the supernatural.HappyFlappyDeist wrote:This is one of the most profoundly ignorant things I've ever read.Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
Georges Lemaitre is one of the most intelligent men in human history and it's an incredible insult to describe such a man as ignorant. His writings are beyond his time, his mathematics are nigh inhuman, his work gave meaning to Einstein's relativity in cosmology, and his work inspired many scientific laws in effect today. You know absolutely nothing of the brilliance of Lemaitre and you, I'm sure, are in no position to deem such a brilliant man "ignorant." It's disgusting, it's truly disgusting. Calling Lemaitre ignorant is about as sensical as calling Christ unwise.
Somebody asked me why I'm a deist, this is part why. Such blind, unfounded, ignorance present in theism.
Please explain using your superior understanding of mathematics and astrophysics how Lemaitre is "unknowledgeable or uneducated" (The definition of ignorant)
I respect your deism. I think there is something of value, however, in the theist way of thinking. I think the problem with most theists is their literal interpretation of the Bible. I think it's just intellectual laziness. The Bible, in my opinion, needs to be read in the context of history in which it was written. The problem with taking a literal interpretation is the primary message is completely lost. And that message is morality is important.
I forgive starhunter for his ad hominem attack. I bet he will not be so forgiving of my points of view.
So Lemming is on a par with Christ. It's getting more interesting with each sentence of yours...HappyFlappyDeist wrote:Calling Lemaitre ignorant is about as sensical as calling Christ unwise.Starhunter wrote:The Big Bang came from between the left and right ears of an ignorant mortal.
I would not talk about Lemming like that, he is revered by some as infallible, because Einstein shook his hand, and being a Catholic priest - well that just speaks volumes - under the gown so to speak.Audie wrote: Do you think its laziness, or incapacity? Maybe those are the same thing in this case..
along with a weird combo of arrogance, egoism, presumptuousness, and negligence.
The Big Bang (despite it's name) was more of an expansion, not an explosion.Storyteller wrote:God said let there be light, and there was light.
Now where have I heard that?
Wait! This huge explosion of light and energy. A big bang.
Dont sell yourself short, you have a mechanism (?) to believe genesis, do you not?Starhunter wrote:I would not talk about Lemming like that, he is revered by some as infallible, because Einstein shook his hand, and being a Catholic priest - well that just speaks volumes - under the gown so to speak.Audie wrote: Do you think its laziness, or incapacity? Maybe those are the same thing in this case..
along with a weird combo of arrogance, egoism, presumptuousness, and negligence.
In my case, it's simply incapacity, I have no mechanism by which to swallow copious amounts of manure.
But I could be wrong of course, Genesis mentions the big bang, I just can't find it - that would be laziness for sure, or is that a lack of imagination?
Expansion, tho, has another meaning is cosmology, does is not? The BB is saidKenny wrote:The Big Bang (despite it's name) was more of an expansion, not an explosion.Storyteller wrote:God said let there be light, and there was light.
Now where have I heard that?
Wait! This huge explosion of light and energy. A big bang.
http://big-bang-theory.com
Ken
I know.Kenny wrote:The Big Bang (despite it's name) was more of an expansion, not an explosion.Storyteller wrote:God said let there be light, and there was light.
Now where have I heard that?
Wait! This huge explosion of light and energy. A big bang.
http://big-bang-theory.com
Ken