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Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:02 am
by Silvertusk
RickD wrote:Storyteller wrote:I felt pressured into being baptised (I have been baptised, btw) in one. It was too pushy, forcing belief down my throat.
One demanded we talk in tongues.
One was too 'nice' too sickly sweet if that makes sense.
And yep! I had the people falling to the floor, crying, wailing etc.
I actually adore being in empty churches.
Annette,
Those are all things that would make me cringe too.
Forcing baptism, or forcing anything, is wrong.
Demanding that tongues is a sign of a believer, is wrong.
And sickly sweet, fake smile, fake Christians, make me want to puke. If we can't be ourselves in front of other believers, where can we be ourselves?
Annette,
My educated guess is that your cringing, is your knowing in your spirit, that something was wrong.
Annette - Don't listen to Rick. He is a heathen who has not been baptised and is going to hell.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:03 am
by RickD
Silvertusk wrote:RickD wrote:Storyteller wrote:I felt pressured into being baptised (I have been baptised, btw) in one. It was too pushy, forcing belief down my throat.
One demanded we talk in tongues.
One was too 'nice' too sickly sweet if that makes sense.
And yep! I had the people falling to the floor, crying, wailing etc.
I actually adore being in empty churches.
Annette,
Those are all things that would make me cringe too.
Forcing baptism, or forcing anything, is wrong.
Demanding that tongues is a sign of a believer, is wrong.
And sickly sweet, fake smile, fake Christians, make me want to puke. If we can't be ourselves in front of other believers, where can we be ourselves?
Annette,
My educated guess is that your cringing, is your knowing in your spirit, that something was wrong.
Annette - Don't listen to Rick. He is a heathen who has not been baptised and is going to hell.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:25 am
by Kurieuo
I think that's a nervous laugh...
Are you not baptised Rick?
I got baptised just in case.
Reminded me of this for some reason:
http://youtu.be/pDWR5RkWRTY?t=26s
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:34 am
by RickD
Kurieuo wrote:I think that's a nervous laugh...
Are you not baptised Rick?
I got baptised just in case.
Reminded me of this for some reason:
http://youtu.be/pDWR5RkWRTY?t=26s
I was christened as a baby. Does that count?
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:45 am
by melanie
RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:I think that's a nervous laugh...
Are you not baptised Rick?
I got baptised just in case.
Reminded me of this for some reason:
http://youtu.be/pDWR5RkWRTY?t=26s
I was christened as a baby. Does that count?
I'm covered I was Christened as a baby when I knew exactly what I was doing......
Lutheran though, but all Fin babies are
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 5:48 am
by Furstentum Liechtenstein
Proper baptism is only done in the Jordan. All other baptisms are facsimiles.
If you are not able to travel to Israel for some reason (you have no money, you're afraid of airplanes
you big sissy, or you're an anti-zionist) you may replace proper baptism by sacrificing a chicken and sprinkling it's blood on your kitchen counter.
FL
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:25 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
I got baptised in the local creek that runs by our church, but way before that happened I was baptised by the spirit. Water baptism is nice but it is a shadow of the real baptism.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 2:31 pm
by Kurieuo
A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:22 pm
by RickD
Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:33 pm
by Byblos
RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
So when they're performed concurrently can we safely say that water baptism saves?
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:36 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
Thanks Rick, that is exactly what I mean't.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:41 pm
by Kurieuo
RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
Just clowning around... D220's right of course. (for a change
)
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 3:42 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
Kurieuo wrote:RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
Just clowning around... D220's right of course. (for a change
)
Change is good, that's how we got from single cell to man.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:44 pm
by Kurieuo
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Kurieuo wrote:RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
Just clowning around... D220's right of course. (for a change
)
Change is good, that's how we got from single cell to man.
So true. Thank God for the clay that he moved such a change through.
Re: Christianity decreasing
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2015 4:51 pm
by Danieltwotwenty
Kurieuo wrote:Danieltwotwenty wrote:Kurieuo wrote:RickD wrote:Kurieuo wrote:A "shadow"? Bah. You inclusivist you....
What do you mean?
I understand what Daniel is saying, I think. That water baptism is the shadow(or symbol) of the baptism by the Holy Spirit. The baptism by the HS, is the one that saves.
Just clowning around... D220's right of course. (for a change
)
Change is good, that's how we got from single cell to man.
So true. Thank God for the clay that he moved such a change through.
Touché
