Philip wrote:
Audie, WHY do you always see someone challenging your ideas as a personal attack?
I dont. Your choice is to think so, much in keeping with your choice to think (make up) a lot of other things about me. THAT is personal, and when its insulting, it is an attack.
Do I sometimes use rhetorical sarcasm?
If that is how you excuse thinking up a cartoonish version of what "secularists' think and presenting it as real, then I guess it is.
Of course, I'm sure you can identify with that
because you are clever with its use as well
Clever enough to be sarcastic without drifting off the tracks into the hallucinatory.
But what I have tried to do is to show you that your belief options have hard parameters, no matter their nuances. If I have misstated something about that, please elaborate
I thought I did, tho I didnt go into detail. How much detail is needed to say a caricature is wrong?
I do not want you to go anywhere, as you help make this an interesting and challenging forum. You're clearly a very smart woman. But I just can't abandon my sincerely held Christian understandings.
Im aware that its a problem for some Christians. My type specimen example would be Dr Kurt Wise, trained in paleontology but unable to deal with the contradictions other than to, as he put it..
" I am a young-age creationist because that is my understanding of the Scripture. As I shared with my professors years ago when I was in college, if all the evidence in the universe turned against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate."
sorry, but Im unable to respect that kind of thinking.
You do realize that YOU use constant dismissive sarcasm in responding per the beliefs of various Christians on this forum, do you not? So why, if such sarcasm aimed at your POSITION on things do you take it so personally?
I don not deliberately misrepresent others' beliefs. That seems to me a major difference between you and me.
Please state what statement aimed at my position is something I ever took personally. I deny that such happened, but, Im open to correction on that.
Really, you are missing how much people here care about you and what will happen to you. If you think the mods here don't have great concern for you, you have totally misread us. No, we're not perfect and often we probably could communicate better. But I really don't know how to deal with someone with your views less than directly.
Direct is good. I dont object. What I object to is when you take what I say, or dont say, and come up with a person I cannot recognize as the one you are addressing. There were so many, I dont care to go back and excise all the false statements you made about me. I will note them in the future, if you keep doing it.
For us here, the mods, this forum is not just some fun diversion where we try to match wits or win arguments with unbelievers. This is very serious stuff, one's eternal destiny. So if we ask you hard questions, it's not because anyone is out to get you - we most certainly are not
Hard questions are good. I ask them myself and of myself. Dont expect me to be a theoretical astrophysicist, tho. You are not, I am not. We cannot have a meaningful conversation on that, any more than two first grade boys dressed for 20 below can have a meaningful fight.
I just wish you knew the hearts of the mods and didn't misunderstand us, as you have often taken offense at our directness. I asked you multiple times point blank how your beliefs didn't fit within specific parameters, but you just got mad.
Such irritation as I felt was not for the reasons you seem to think.
I don't understand that, as I thought the questions were pretty fair, direct and easy to understand
And I dont understand making things up to state as fact.
I've too much on my mind to do theoretical astrophysics right now, other than to sy that your representation does not seem to me consistent with either my own thinking, nor that of physics as I've understood it from what little reading / listening I've done.
I will take my 'gentler sex" prerogative to change my mind, and make one more try at finding common ground. Ideally, some mutual respect.