Evidence for God from Science

Yes,and when Jesus returns and sets up his reign on earth and binds Satan so that he cannot interfere we will have jobs to do and it won't be boring we could be kings or priests during Christ's reign,so no need to be boring.

Philip wrote:

Bip: His problem with an afterlife wasn't an intellectual one but an emotional one and a lack of trust that God , who could create this beautiful universe can create a heaven that would never allow doctor flew to get bored.

Well, I'd say Flew's problem was intellectual as well! Did he really think that the Author of the Universe, Who created such an extraordinary, spectacular, incredibly beautiful and endlessly fascinating universe, had created an eternal home akin to one very boring, never-ending church service? Even those who don't believe in God are obsessively interested in all of our planet's beauties and mysteries - not to mention in the heavens around us. How could anyone be awed by what has already physically been created yet think the One responsible for it all would create an eternity that that we would eventually find endlessly dull? And note, we're given the sense that earth is a cesspool in comparison of the world to come! Does a human think that what a man finds invigorating and exciting even compares to the things of God, espescially, God Himself?

Point well made Philip,it was an intellectual problem as well. I wonder why flew could get himself to believe in a creator but couldn't take the final leap to Christ. He even admitted that Nde's posed a formidable challenge to his views against an afterlife .

Bip: I wonder why flew could get himself to believe in a creator but couldn't take the final leap to Christ. He even admitted that Nde's posed a formidable challenge to his views against an afterlife .

Probably for the very same reason Einstein couldn't - a PERSONAL God requires a personal response; He EXPECTS certain things; Has a morality standard for us; WE must WANT, EXCEPT and and desire to OBEY Him - ALL things which kinda puts a crimp on a narcissist's plans and desires for his life, as opposed to living one's life precisely how THEY want to live it.

abelcainsbrother wrote:Yes,and when Jesus returns and sets up his reign on earth and binds Satan so that he cannot interfere we will have jobs to do and it won't be boring we could be kings or priests during Christ's reign,so no need to be boring.

You would think an omnipotent God would be able to constrain Satan at any time. Kings have subjects. Priests have followers. You can't have a lord without slaves. I think the second coming of Jesus would not be a monarchy but a love fest of religious humility. People would be on bended knee penitent and full of reverence. All men would be equal in the eyes of a loving and forgiving God. It seems to me an omnipotent God would not have any wants or desires and therefore would not be full of wrath against his creations. I think and omnipotent God would only have infinite love and forgiveness for all of us in spite of all our Earthly sins. People may be incapable of forgiveness. The "righteous" want their reward of eternal bliss and see the non-believers fry. But our omnipotent God is all powerful. It seems to me an omnipotent all powerful all loving God would not fulfill the "righteous" people's selfish desire of having revenge against the "sinners" or the satisfaction of seeing the non-believers get their due. I know my view on this may be unconventional so please forgive me if you think I am being irreverent to your beliefs.

Your comment about "we will have jobs to do and it won't be boring" is the one I find most interesting. Maybe what you mean by kings and priests is the followers of Christ would be some kind of God police enforcing God's law over the remaining flock after the second coming. So maybe you are suggesting after the second coming people will still be able to commit sins. I would think everyone remaining after the second coming would be equal before the eyes of God.

From my understanding of scripture it seems to me after the second coming the Universe would be destroyed and everyone would ascend into the spiritual realm of heaven. The "righteous" would immediately turn and look directly into the face of God. At that moment, time stops, and each soul would be absorbed into the light of God's mind experiencing everlasing eternal bliss. Once you look into the face of God you will be so enamored you will not have time to think about yourself as being separate from God. The more interesting question is what happens to the non-believers who turn away and do not look into the face of God.

Now this may sound a little far fetched but hear me out. I think the non-believers, who turn away from the face of God are immediately given the power of omnipotence. You may say there can only be one omnipotent being. But an omnipotent God could of course share his omnipotence otherwise he would not be truly be omnipotent. So what does a non-believer do with the power of omnipotence? The non-believer uses his new found omnipotent powers to have every experience imaginable. Eternity is a long time. And there comes a point after you've experienced everything there is to experience an infinite number of times you inevitably become bored. You decide you've had enough. At that moment, our errant soul volunteeringly looks into the face of God, enamored completely for the first time, and experiences God's heavenly eternal bliss.

You may think this is not fair because the "righteous" followed the Gospels and did not get the reward of having omnipotent powers. But the non-believer missed out on having eternal heavenly bliss for a very long time. So in the end it all works out. Everyone is saved. Everyone experiences infinite love, infinite forgiveness, and infinite oneness with God. All Men.

Where in the bible do we find this line of thinking?

Where in the bible do we find this line of thinking?

I believe it's in the Book of Conjecture, you know right after the Book of WTH...

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

Where in the bible do we find this line of thinking?

I believe it's in the Book of Conjecture, you know right after the Book of WTH...

The Book of Conjecture! Tbh, I had to google that to make sure it wasn't part of the Catholic apocrypha.

ohhhh weeellll, it just has to be true then

Everyone thinks their own dogma is the only one true dogma. One man's religion is another man's cult. How does anyone KNOW what is conjecture and what is not. Each of us must decide what our words mean including the ones in the Bible. The Bible was written by over 30 different authors over a 1500 year period. I just find it to be one of the most astounding coincidences that the King James version of the Bible dictates that the "Kingdom of God" is designed like a monarchy. That is just an amazing coincidence in my mind.

So which is it, is each one of us sacred in the eyes of our "Lord", or are we slaves who must be submissive to our Lord's authority. It seems to me love does not require submission to authority. It's seems to me love is equal almost by definition. Is the Bible the true word of God because the Bible say it is the word of God? The Bible says we need to "worship" in order to find salvation. People were finding salvation before the Bible existed.

Let me read you another passage from the Book of Conjecture. The Bible was designed by it's authors to promote obedience to authority. The Bible is propaganda mind control for the purpose of perserving the monarchy. During medieval times it used to be the only way you could achieve salvation is by buying your absolution from the Church. The Bible is about power and control. And power corrupts.

Why does the word "Lord" appear in the Bible at all? I think "Heavenly Father" or something a little more friendly would be more representative. To me the word "Lord" has too many negative connotations. And love is usually not a word I would associate with "Lord". When I hear "Lord" I think of tyranny and monarchy. Use you brain and think about it. An omnipotent God needs nothing from us. Why would he require us to worship him as our Lord? I think it's the other way around. I think God worships us with infinite love. When we treat each other with love and respect then that is when we are closest to God. When we are dismissive of other people is when we are not close to God.

Here's another passage from my Book of Conjecture. I think the whole idea of "being saved", "sin", "eternal damnation", and saying "taking the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior" is mind control manipulation. I think there's truth in teachings of Jesus. But at the same time I think all the Bible's authors and translators over so many years have distorted the message to serve a corrupt purpose. And that purpose is for concentrating power and influence which is monarchy. Religion is about teaching us to live a moral life. Religion is not about teaching us subservience.

An omnipotent God can easily save all souls regardless of our earthly sins. My faith is that an all powerful all loving God will fogive me after my death no matter what I have done in my life. You may think I am crazy because my pattern of faith is not like yours. And you may think your dogma is the only one true dogma. And you may think I will burn in hell for my beliefs. But I just feel having faith in an God who will forgive me no matter what is the only God worth trusting.

As I said previously I think there's truth in teachings of Jesus. The Jefferson Bible is a very interesting piece of work along the lines of my way of thinking, "There laid Jesus: rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed."

dfnj wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:Yes,and when Jesus returns and sets up his reign on earth and binds Satan so that he cannot interfere we will have jobs to do and it won't be boring we could be kings or priests during Christ's reign,so no need to be boring.

You would think an omnipotent God would be able to constrain Satan at any time. Kings have subjects. Priests have followers. You can't have a lord without slaves. I think the second coming of Jesus would not be a monarchy but a love fest of religious humility. People would be on bended knee penitent and full of reverence. All men would be equal in the eyes of a loving and forgiving God. It seems to me an omnipotent God would not have any wants or desires and therefore would not be full of wrath against his creations. I think and omnipotent God would only have infinite love and forgiveness for all of us in spite of all our Earthly sins. People may be incapable of forgiveness. The "righteous" want their reward of eternal bliss and see the non-believers fry. But our omnipotent God is all powerful. It seems to me an omnipotent all powerful all loving God would not fulfill the "righteous" people's selfish desire of having revenge against the "sinners" or the satisfaction of seeing the non-believers get their due. I know my view on this may be unconventional so please forgive me if you think I am being irreverent to your beliefs.

Your comment about "we will have jobs to do and it won't be boring" is the one I find most interesting. Maybe what you mean by kings and priests is the followers of Christ would be some kind of God police enforcing God's law over the remaining flock after the second coming. So maybe you are suggesting after the second coming people will still be able to commit sins. I would think everyone remaining after the second coming would be equal before the eyes of God.

From my understanding of scripture it seems to me after the second coming the Universe would be destroyed and everyone would ascend into the spiritual realm of heaven. The "righteous" would immediately turn and look directly into the face of God. At that moment, time stops, and each soul would be absorbed into the light of God's mind experiencing everlasing eternal bliss. Once you look into the face of God you will be so enamored you will not have time to think about yourself as being separate from God. The more interesting question is what happens to the non-believers who turn away and do not look into the face of God.

Now this may sound a little far fetched but hear me out. I think the non-believers, who turn away from the face of God are immediately given the power of omnipotence. You may say there can only be one omnipotent being. But an omnipotent God could of course share his omnipotence otherwise he would not be truly be omnipotent. So what does a non-believer do with the power of omnipotence? The non-believer uses his new found omnipotent powers to have every experience imaginable. Eternity is a long time. And there comes a point after you've experienced everything there is to experience an infinite number of times you inevitably become bored. You decide you've had enough. At that moment, our errant soul volunteeringly looks into the face of God, enamored completely for the first time, and experiences God's heavenly eternal bliss.

You may think this is not fair because the "righteous" followed the Gospels and did not get the reward of having omnipotent powers. But the non-believer missed out on having eternal heavenly bliss for a very long time. So in the end it all works out. Everyone is saved. Everyone experiences infinite love, infinite forgiveness, and infinite oneness with God. All Men.

First off I did not go into great detail about what the bible says,I briefly explained it.It was just a brief statement but I am going by what the bible says even though it was a brief statement about what happens when Jesus returns.

Narrow way to heaven.
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=YaTQ7HMo1y4

dfnj wrote:Everyone thinks their own dogma is the only one true dogma. One man's religion is another man's cult. How does anyone KNOW what is conjecture and what is not. Each of us must decide what our words mean including the ones in the Bible. The Bible was written by over 30 different authors over a 1500 year period. I just find it to be one of the most astounding coincidences that the King James version of the Bible dictates that the "Kingdom of God" is designed like a monarchy. That is just an amazing coincidence in my mind.

So which is it, is each one of us sacred in the eyes of our "Lord", or are we slaves who must be submissive to our Lord's authority. It seems to me love does not require submission to authority. It's seems to me love is equal almost by definition. Is the Bible the true word of God because the Bible say it is the word of God? The Bible says we need to "worship" in order to find salvation. People were finding salvation before the Bible existed.

Let me read you another passage from the Book of Conjecture. The Bible was designed by it's authors to promote obedience to authority. The Bible is propaganda mind control for the purpose of perserving the monarchy. During medieval times it used to be the only way you could achieve salvation is by buying your absolution from the Church. The Bible is about power and control. And power corrupts.

Why does the word "Lord" appear in the Bible at all? I think "Heavenly Father" or something a little more friendly would be more representative. To me the word "Lord" has too many negative connotations. And love is usually not a word I would associate with "Lord". When I hear "Lord" I think of tyranny and monarchy. Use you brain and think about it. An omnipotent God needs nothing from us. Why would he require us to worship him as our Lord? I think it's the other way around. I think God worships us with infinite love. When we treat each other with love and respect then that is when we are closest to God. When we are dismissive of other people is when we are not close to God.

Here's another passage from my Book of Conjecture. I think the whole idea of "being saved", "sin", "eternal damnation", and saying "taking the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior" is mind control manipulation. I think there's truth in teachings of Jesus. But at the same time I think all the Bible's authors and translators over so many years have distorted the message to serve a corrupt purpose. And that purpose is for concentrating power and influence which is monarchy. Religion is about teaching us to live a moral life. Religion is not about teaching us subservience.

An omnipotent God can easily save all souls regardless of our earthly sins. My faith is that an all powerful all loving God will fogive me after my death no matter what I have done in my life. You may think I am crazy because my pattern of faith is not like yours. And you may think your dogma is the only one true dogma. And you may think I will burn in hell for my beliefs. But I just feel having faith in an God who will forgive me no matter what is the only God worth trusting.

As I said previously I think there's truth in teachings of Jesus. The Jefferson Bible is a very interesting piece of work along the lines of my way of thinking, "There laid Jesus: rolled a great stone to the door of the sepulchre, and departed."

You are ignoring what the bible says then because God does not lie and God will not overlook any bodies sin,which is why he sent Jesus to pay for our sins,so that we don't have to,but if we reject God's sacrifice for sin? Then we will pay for our own sins.
You can think all you want that God is mean because he won't overlook sin,but to do so would make him a liar and he does not lie,and he is not going to change because you think God should overlook sin.Sin is a big problem to Holy God.I know it is not a big deal to man,but it is to God.When you stand before God as we all will one day,the only thing that is going to matter is if your name is in the Lamb's book of life.

Now maybe you don't understand God or how he has always been but all throughout the bible God has always required a blood sacrifice because of sin and in the OT they sacrificed animals as a blood sacrifice,but as Isaiah pointed out in chapter 1 this was not getting it done,even then it wasn't. God sending Jesus to be sacrificed as a blood covenant is the very same thing,it is a blood sacrifice which is why Christians take communion and drink wine and eat unleavened bread in remembrance of what Jesus did,the wine symbolizes Jesus's blood and sacrifice for our sins.

So that if you expect God now to not require a blood covenant? You are just up a creek with no paddle.Our opinions and beliefs about how we interpret the bible will not change God's mind and it is through prayer and guidance of the Holy Spirit and bible study that we can understand this.
There is a reason Jesus comes back and binds Satan so he cannot interfere and reigns for a thousand years on this earth with all of creation worshipping him.The first time Jesus came he came as a Lamb to be slain but he's coming back as the Lion of the tribe of Judah the King of kings and Lord of lords.Also I don't know of a biblical translation that does not give the same thing the king James version says,so I don't understand why you think it is a bad translation.

abelcainsbrother wrote:

You are ignoring what the bible ....

Now maybe you don't understand God or how he has always been but all throughout the bible God has always required a blood sacrifice because of sin ...

So that if you expect God now to not require a blood covenant?

Everyone thinks their own dogma is the one true dogma. So I mean no disrespect to your way of thinking.

In my way of thinking I am not ignoring the Bible. I think the essential message of the Bible is morality is important. The Bible was written by over 30 differnt authors who were steeped in the culture of the time it was written. It's not that I am irreverent. It's that the words in the Bible may contain human errors.

I find the idea of "blood sacrifice" to be repulsive and immoral. An omnipotent God requires nothing from us. What purpose would a blood sacrifice serve if not just sick entertainment for the flock. How can a loving God expect or encourage death. An infinite loving God requires nothing from us. You can keep your blood sacrifices.

My view on sin is a little different than yours and in the Bible. In my view, do you do not achieve salvation through the words of the Bible. The way you achieve salvation is by making amends with the people you have sinned against. You need to get forgiveness from the people you sinned against to achieve salvation. You can quote scripture, or you can pray everyday, or go to church every Sunday. But unless you make amends it's all meaningless gestures.

Do I expect God now to not require a blood covenant is an interesting question. In my view, pretending to speak for God is the height of human hubris and possibly man's greatest possible sin. No one speaks for God. People who write about God may come close with shreds of divine brilliance. But human imperfections will always prevent us from truly speaking for God. The Bible was written by men.

Each of us must find our own way to achieve salvation. The Bible is not an NFL football team. You cannot achieve salvation by rooting for Jesus or being a cheerleader.

dfnj wrote:
I find the idea of "blood sacrifice" to be repulsive and immoral. An omnipotent God requires nothing from us. What purpose would a blood sacrifice serve if not just sick entertainment for the flock. How can a loving God expect or encourage death. An infinite loving God requires nothing from us. You can keep your blood sacrifices.

dfnj,

You lost me on this. Could you explain how it logically follows that because God is infinite, He requires nothing from us?

Maybe in the form of a syllogism, so we can see your argument?

Wow, dfnj. I see gold here. I'm starting with your first post. Mods moderate me if you think this is getting too out of topic...

You would think an omnipotent God would be able to constrain Satan at any time. Kings have subjects. Priests have followers. You can't have a lord without slaves.

He can and does restrain satan constantly.

I think the second coming of Jesus would not be a monarchy but a love fest of religious humility. People would be on bended knee penitent and full of reverence. All men would be equal in the eyes of a loving and forgiving God.

Jesus is our King. There is a monarchy with YHWH at the top. At the second coming this age will have been ended and He comes to set up the 7th age of His reign on Earth. At that time, there will be those He protects throughout the tribulation who will be safe, and the rest will be destroyed and they will still refuse to bend the knee.

It seems to me an omnipotent God would not have any wants or desires and therefore would not be full of wrath against his creations.

Everything comes from Existence Who is YHWH, including emotions. Sin is the abuse of Existence (which we are a part of, so any sin against anything in existence is towards YHWH). Wrath comes from the longsuffering Jesus who ends those who would destroy rather than respect (love) existence in how it is meant to be.

I think and omnipotent God would only have infinite love and forgiveness for all of us in spite of all our Earthly sins.

Which is why He gave us a way out, Jesus Christ

People may be incapable of forgiveness. The "righteous" want their reward of eternal bliss and see the non-believers fry. But our omnipotent God is all powerful. It seems to me an omnipotent all powerful all loving God would not fulfill the "righteous" people's selfish desire of having revenge against the "sinners" or the satisfaction of seeing the non-believers get their due. I know my view on this may be unconventional so please forgive me if you think I am being irreverent to your beliefs.

No one considered righteous (which is only possible by Jesus making us righteous..) would want that. I want everyone to be saved. My reward will to be with my El-Shaddai in service to my King. That will be breathtakingly, eternally awesome.

Your comment about "we will have jobs to do and it won't be boring" is the one I find most interesting. Maybe what you mean by kings and priests is the followers of Christ would be some kind of God police enforcing God's law over the remaining flock after the second coming. So maybe you are suggesting after the second coming people will still be able to commit sins. I would think everyone remaining after the second coming would be equal before the eyes of God.

Those who Christ puts in authority are servants, not lords. The joy of our work will be to express Elohim's love to existence and tutor each other as Images of YHWH in YHWH. Self exploration, is in an sense, exploring YHWH. There will be enforcement, but it will be swift and always just. But the environment will be one where good reigns, instead of evil as the age we are in today. And believe me, no one will want to have to enforce, and everyone will be dealt with as the Holy Spirit deals with us, lovingly in the agape way.

From my understanding of scripture it seems to me after the second coming the Universe would be destroyed and everyone would ascend into the spiritual realm of heaven. The "righteous" would immediately turn and look directly into the face of God. At that moment, time stops, and each soul would be absorbed into the light of God's mind experiencing everlasing eternal bliss. Once you look into the face of God you will be so enamored you will not have time to think about yourself as being separate from God. The more interesting question is what happens to the non-believers who turn away and do not look into the face of God.

The universe will be destroyed after satan is thrown into the lake of fire. The millenium comes after the second coming. I don't follow the rest of your theology to be accurate to address as it leads from what I see to be a false premise. If you'd like me to expound here let me know.

Now this may sound a little far fetched but hear me out. I think the non-believers, who turn away from the face of God are immediately given the power of omnipotence. You may say there can only be one omnipotent being. But an omnipotent God could of course share his omnipotence otherwise he would not be truly be omnipotent. So what does a non-believer do with the power of omnipotence? The non-believer uses his new found omnipotent powers to have every experience imaginable. Eternity is a long time. And there comes a point after you've experienced everything there is to experience an infinite number of times you inevitably become bored. You decide you've had enough. At that moment, our errant soul volunteeringly looks into the face of God, enamored completely for the first time, and experiences God's heavenly eternal bliss.

I have a hard time addressing this as I think it's founded on faulty knowledge. Although you might be hitting on something very interesting in relation to the White Throne Judgement (which is what I think you were really addressing in the paragraph above?)

You may think this is not fair because the "righteous" followed the Gospels and did not get the reward of having omnipotent powers. But the non-believer missed out on having eternal heavenly bliss for a very long time. So in the end it all works out. Everyone is saved. Everyone experiences infinite love, infinite forgiveness, and infinite oneness with God. All Men.

Interesting. This could in a sense reconcile my thoughts on why hell might not be truly eternal... More could be explored here..

Everyone thinks their own dogma is the only one true dogma. One man's religion is another man's cult. How does anyone KNOW what is conjecture and what is not. Each of us must decide what our words mean including the ones in the Bible. The Bible was written by over 30 different authors over a 1500 year period. I just find it to be one of the most astounding coincidences that the King James version of the Bible dictates that the "Kingdom of God" is designed like a monarchy. That is just an amazing coincidence in my mind.

Or that the world was designed off the laws of Existence which include a monarchy. I think you're philosophizing. But it needs to be grounded in scripture and the theology of the word. Let the Bible speak for itself with untainted words. Which includes learning it's language..

So which is it, is each one of us sacred in the eyes of our "Lord", or are we slaves who must be submissive to our Lord's authority. It seems to me love does not require submission to authority. It's seems to me love is equal almost by definition. Is the Bible the true word of God because the Bible say it is the word of God? The Bible says we need to "worship" in order to find salvation. People were finding salvation before the Bible existed.

We are all loved by Elohim but some of us take on greater responsibilities than others and will get the stated rewards therof that everyone is able to achieve. It's a two way street, just like our relationship with Elohim. We get what we search for and seek after with all our hearts, minds and lips. Remember, people found salvation before the Bible existed through faith in Him. If anyone's heart yearns for Him, He will make Himself known throughout all time and geography.

Let me read you another passage from the Book of Conjecture. The Bible was designed by it's authors to promote obedience to authority. The Bible is propaganda mind control for the purpose of perserving the monarchy. During medieval times it used to be the only way you could achieve salvation is by buying your absolution from the Church. The Bible is about power and control. And power corrupts.

That doesn't sound like the Bible I read. (I know that wasn't directed at me, but I'm taking on this conversation personally because I'm interested in you. Please don't take offense to my bluntness as I don't yours)

Why does the word "Lord" appear in the Bible at all? I think "Heavenly Father" or something a little more friendly would be more representative. To me the word "Lord" has too many negative connotations. And love is usually not a word I would associate with "Lord". When I hear "Lord" I think of tyranny and monarchy. Use you brain and think about it. An omnipotent God needs nothing from us. Why would he require us to worship him as our Lord? I think it's the other way around. I think God worships us with infinite love. When we treat each other with love and respect then that is when we are closest to God. When we are dismissive of other people is when we are not close to God.

You're intuitive, He's shown you this. It shouldn't be saying LORD. It should be saying YHWH, Elohim, Adonia, and other names. Personal names depicting what He wants to reveal about Himself. He wants you to take Him personally, I'm glad you know this. The rest I see as a reasonable continuation from faulty foundational knowledge.

Here's another passage from my Book of Conjecture. I think the whole idea of "being saved", "sin", "eternal damnation", and saying "taking the Lord Jesus Christ as your savior" is mind control manipulation. I think there's truth in teachings of Jesus. But at the same time I think all the Bible's authors and translators over so many years have distorted the message to serve a corrupt purpose. And that purpose is for concentrating power and influence which is monarchy. Religion is about teaching us to live a moral life. Religion is not about teaching us subservience.

OK, I agree and disagree with you. I agree with most of what you say but remember this, the Bible is true, even if distorted. For those seeking the spiritual truths you do, you need to now read the Bible untainted by translations through time. And believe me the Bible is the most accurate, self-true, ancient document in existence. Read 'Cold Case Christianity' for proofs and sources. Pick up a restored language Bible, I'd recommend the Hallelujah Scriptures. It will put things in place in perspective and reveal what you yearn for. Remember too, there is a true spiritual warfare going on and has been since satan took reign of this Earth. he does influence the world in drastic measure unfathomable to human mortal minds. To be a Christian is to recognize there really is a great conspiracy.

An omnipotent God can easily save all souls regardless of our earthly sins. My faith is that an all powerful all loving God will fogive me after my death no matter what I have done in my life. You may think I am crazy because my pattern of faith is not like yours. And you may think your dogma is the only one true dogma. And you may think I will burn in hell for my beliefs. But I just feel having faith in an God who will forgive me no matter what is the only God worth trusting.

And you are right. If you believe Jesus Christ is the Word Who became flesh and was resurrected and confess as you had. You will be forgiven for you chose to be a part of His New Covenant.