Evidence for God from Science

JurassicTerrorist wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:

RickD wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:The bible actually tells us water is in outerspace.This water on Mars thing is not really nothing new.You can look at pictures of Mars and tell it atleast use to have water on it,and this was known even before this discovery that Mars use to have oceans of water,even before this discovery.However if they ever find life or even evidence of dead life don't under-estimate how it would change science and the scientific theories that would follow,because it would effect science and I think lead science the wrong way.I personally do not believe there is life on other planets and the bible does not seem to give an answer,however it is possible other planets use to have life on them before God made the earth a habitable place to create man.

The bible tells us water is in outer space?

Where does the bible say that?

Genesis 1:7. If you accept the GT and a universal flood of the universe -Lucifer's flood - that we believe 2nd Peter 3:5-6 refers to? That wiped out the former world then this is where God cleaned up the mess of the universal flood of the Universe and he probably removed water off of Mars too seeing that Mars used to have Oceans of water on it.God was making the earth a habitable place to create man.

An universal flood? How does that make sense? Was the universe filled up with water, or was it only the planets? Wouldn't the majority of the water freeze then? I mean i know God can do anything, but wouldn't all that floating water in the universe freeze by the cold temperatures?

ACB wrote:

This has happened before in the past where believers believed things the bible did not say and yet taught it any way.Then eventually the truth of God's word shined through and we look back now and realize the bible did not say what they said it did.

RickD wrote:

ACB wrote:

This has happened before in the past where believers believed things the bible did not say and yet taught it any way.Then eventually the truth of God's word shined through and we look back now and realize the bible did not say what they said it did.

Believers believed things the bible did not say? You mean like the universe being flooded with water?

Try to picture an area of the universe that's minus 455 degrees Fahrenheit, being flooded with water. Was this some kind of magic water? Was this magic water immune to the freezing temperatures in outer space?

Able,

I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your flooded universe theory sounds about as ridiculous as dinosaurs on the ark.

RickD wrote:Abel,

What was the purpose of God flooding outer space? What was He destroying, and why?

abelcainsbrother wrote:

RickD wrote:Abel,

What was the purpose of God flooding outer space? What was He destroying, and why?

When God pours out judgment it is always because of sin and in this case it was Lucifer's sin. We can piece things together about Lucifer and his rebellion by reading the bible about it.It seems clear that Lucifer engineered a rebellion against God and actually tried to ovetake God's throne but hewas cast out along with a third of the angels.Imean I could really flesh this out with scripture but I'm assuming you know enough to understand. But severe judgment was poured out and the former world that existed onthis earth was wiped out and if you agree? We see the evidence of this former world in the Geology of the earth. This finding evidence of fossils or dead life on Mars is just something to consider and is not really apart of the Gap theory yet,however it could become part of it if they do find evidence of dead life on Mars because it would seem to widen out just how massive this flood was and even other planets were effected,not just the earth. It would also be a biblical answer to why dead life was found on Mars. We have to wait n see but I do find it interesting. I realize that there are other creation in terpretations and the evidence in the earth is not looked at from this perspective but it is if you accept the GT.

RickD wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:

RickD wrote:Abel,

What was the purpose of God flooding outer space? What was He destroying, and why?

When God pours out judgment it is always because of sin and in this case it was Lucifer's sin. We can piece things together about Lucifer and his rebellion by reading the bible about it.It seems clear that Lucifer engineered a rebellion against God and actually tried to ovetake God's throne but hewas cast out along with a third of the angels.Imean I could really flesh this out with scripture but I'm assuming you know enough to understand. But severe judgment was poured out and the former world that existed onthis earth was wiped out and if you agree? We see the evidence of this former world in the Geology of the earth. This finding evidence of fossils or dead life on Mars is just something to consider and is not really apart of the Gap theory yet,however it could become part of it if they do find evidence of dead life on Mars because it would seem to widen out just how massive this flood was and even other planets were effected,not just the earth. It would also be a biblical answer to why dead life was found on Mars. We have to wait n see but I do find it interesting. I realize that there are other creation in terpretations and the evidence in the earth is not looked at from this perspective but it is if you accept the GT.

Abel,

I understand the story about Lucifer sinning, and being removed from heaven by God. And 1/3 of the Angels being removed with him. That was his punishment for sinning.
I just don't see any biblical merit for your idea that God flooded the universe as an additional punishment for lucifer's sin.

Why would God flood the entire universe because of lucifer's sin? It just makes no sense. Were there angels hiding on some distant planet that God wanted to drown by a flood?
Angels are spiritual beings. Not physical. How could water from a flood affect them?

The whole thing just seems ridiculous.

RickD wrote:Looks like rocks formed by erosion. What about it?

abelcainsbrother wrote:

RickD wrote:Looks like rocks formed by erosion. What about it?

All of them? It also looks like water once flowed over this area too.Where did the water go? Is Mars now without form and void like the earth was? empty and waste? Could Mars have had life on it in the past that was wiped out?If there was a flood of the universe like the bible indicates why would it only effect the earth? We have Mars rovers on Mars but it might also apply to other planets also. These are questions some of us consider.

Philip wrote:Um, WHY did God send the flood of Noah? To wipe out sinful HUMANITY! And so, where did humanity reside? On MARS? Outer space? Someone's exegesis of Scripture has taken a walk on the wild side!

The Purpose of the Flood in Noah’s Day:
Noah Ark Nephilim Flood Punishment | Nephilim Complete Bible Study

Rather than being an act of cruelty, the Flood was God’s way of saving the last of humanity from complete destruction.
Many pastors, Bible scholars and Bible skeptics alike view the flood as God’s way of dealing with humanity after humanity just sinning too much. However, with all due respect, this is a very simplistic way of looking at the flood. After all, today’s society is just as corrupt and depraved, if not far worse than any era before (more people have been killed in war in the past century than in the prior 900 years). So why would such a global judgment only happen in Noah’s day? The answer is that there were far more complex issues going on in the days of Noah then just humans sinning.
The flood served 3 chief purposes: 1) To destroy the Nephilim giants. 2) To punish the angels who committed the illicit relations with women and make an example of them so that no other angels would ever attempt this again and 3) to save humanity from certain destruction.
Much more than the “over-reaction by an angry God” as skeptics like to paint it, the flood was God’s way of preserving the human race and its bloodline, before it became completely corrupted by the Nephilim giants. This is an important point: many people today point to the flood as “proof” that God is cruel and angry with humanity all the time, and willing to just kill millions of people in genocide on a whim. However the Biblical truth was that God sent the flood to preserve humanity and to make sure we could still receive the promised Redeemer who could save our souls. Without Jesus Christ, there is no hope. There is no future. There is no forgiveness. Meaning every person would spend eternity in hell. The flood was God’s way to keep that hope for all people.
But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD. These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.
Noah was chosen to carry on and re-start humanity after the flood because he was a believer in God. Additionally he was “perfect in his generations” which meant that his genetic bloodline and ancestry was 100% human. Noah had not been a part of the Nephilim hybridization that was plaguing humanity. The Hebrew word for “perfect” in that verse is tamiym, which means “complete, whole” with reference to health and physical condition. This is the same word used to describe the condition of animal sacrifices to the Lord:
And whosoever offereth a sacrifice of peace offerings unto the LORD to accomplish his vow, or a freewill offering in beeves or sheep, it shall be perfect to be accepted; there shall be no blemish therein. – Leviticus 22:21.
Thus Noah, his three sons and their wives were able to survive the flood and re-start humanity. But unfortunately, the Nephilim giants returned.

http://beginningandend.com/bloodlines-o ... cal-study/