Evidence for God from Science

K, you're right. Christians in general, relate more to what the Republican Party brings to the table.

But not always.

And those who profess to be Christians, usually run as republicans.

EssentialSacrifice wrote:

Es I am not blinded to biblical prophecy

... I'm sure you aren't Mel, but that was never my point...

Actually Mel, all I was saying in this verse, was only used to bolster your "politics" diatribe which i agree with,

Mel wrote:
Christians think they have an influence in politics within their country and within worldwide dealings. They don't.

It is a historical platform that is rife with influence, political campaigns that are backed by oil moguls, weapons dealers and those that benefit significantly economically from who ever is in power.

It's a poltical game to keep you voting.

and, as i said,

When this first happens, the Millennial Kingdom, it will be the first time political authority will be wrestled from human hands, and, albeit for only a short while, the first time man will know freedom through policy.

No human political regime can ever meet the perfection that will be ours in the 1000 year reign of Christ . Except for the fact that the reign of His Millenial Kingdom happens post tribulation, (because that's where you find the reference to human politics), there was nothing prophetic about the statement. Simply biblical support for your thoughts on politics

ES I'm so sorry.
I'm an idiot sometimes.
I'm not quite sure what I was thinking, it is obvious what you were saying.
Actually truth be told I took 'keep Jesus out of your party' to a whole other level.
Quite literally.
A friend of mine popped over last night as it was her birthday. She wasn't over for very long but she brought over a bottle wine and we had a couple of glasses. Then my hubby came home from touch footy and they won their first game, they have been getting flogged every week. So he grabbed some beer to celebrate and brought me home some wine. Had a glass with him, then he went to bed. I should have done the same. I jumped on here and was fine, until I had a couple more and responded to your post. Then babbled some ridiculous nonsense.
Forgive me
I feel silly and I have a headache.
I need to exercise a little more self discipline.

Mel,

Now it all makes sense. Now I understand, and can read all your posts in the proper context. Through wine colored glasses.





Mel, I don't know why, but this riddle made me immediately think of you.

Q: What do you call a blonde with 3 brain cells?





A: Pregnant with twins.

Forgive me ... there is truly nothing to forgive ... between us.

abelcainsbrother wrote:You just proved my point. Christians are voting for and tolerating anti-God policies.

In your opinion, which is just one of many, based on your interpretation of Scripture, which is also one of many.

RickD wrote:Mel,

Now it all makes sense. Now I understand, and can read all your posts in the proper context. Through wine colored glasses.





Mel, I don't know why, but this riddle made me immediately think of you.

Q: What do you call a blonde with 3 brain cells?





A: Pregnant with twins.

Hilarious Rick
I heard this joke the other day and it made me think of you...

Why are men like laxatives?

They can irritate the s*** out of you

melanie wrote:

RickD wrote:Mel,

Now it all makes sense. Now I understand, and can read all your posts in the proper context. Through wine colored glasses.

Mel, I don't know why, but this riddle made me immediately think of you.

Q: What do you call a blonde with 3 brain cells?

A: Pregnant with twins.

Hilarious Rick
I heard this joke the other day and it made me think of you...

Why are men like laxatives?

They can irritate the s*** out of you

I was going to defend Mel by telling Rick that after removing the white out off my computer screen to read his post I was going too and get back in the kitchen and fix his wife a sandwich and do the dishes...
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Thanks for reminding me B. W. I need to do the dishes before the wife gets home, or she'll kill me!

edwardmurphy wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:You just proved my point. Christians are voting for and tolerating anti-God policies.

In your opinion, which is just one of many, based on your interpretation of Scripture, which is also one of many.

That is not the problem,there is no private interpretation of the bible for example God created Adam and Eve,every Christian or person who has read the bible knows this,even if they are'nt a Christian,they know what the bible says.

How many Christian denominations are there scattered around the world? Hundreds, anyway. They're all based on the Bible, so presumably they've read it. So...

edwardmurphy wrote:How many Christian denominations are there scattered around the world? Hundreds, anyway. They're all based on the Bible, so presumably they've read it. So...

Just coming in off this point...

Well, no, they're not really all based on the Bible.
In fact, I'm not sure it is right to say any form of Christianity is based upon the Bible,
although certainly such is considered an important source to many Christians.

Hmm... how can I illustrate what I'm getting at?
Perhaps our birth date is based upon our birth certificate. It's like, ok, such can be an important source to verify our birth date, but such isn't responsible for our actual birth date.
Or perhaps something like... all science is based upon scientific books. Yes, books can be important sources of scientific thinking, but such are ultimately derived from actual science and not really the other way around.

So too, Scripture is considered an important source, because well, Christianity is a Jewish sect if-you-will which endorses the God of Abraham as the one true God. Therefore, the Tanakh becomes an important source. And then we have Christ Himself, the bringer and revealer of the New Covenant, with his own teachings and the like.

Therefore Christ is the true basis of all Christianity. So then, we have followers of Christ writing the Gospels and Paul with his epistles, and these writings gained authority for their authenticity in who they came from and as such valued amongst early Christendom as authoritative sources to Christ himself. So, we have an early tradition of Christians authenticating certain books of Scripture, and such Scripture becoming adopted as an authoritative source within Christianity, not foregoing other valuable sources within Christian theology such as experience and reason...

But, in any case... it just isn't as simple as saying all Christian denominations are based upon the Bible.

Fine, fine, I was imprecise. I think the point was still clear enough.

Sorry, just being me.

Therefore Christ is the true basis of all Christianity. So then, we have followers of Christ writing the Gospels and Paul with his epistles, and these writings gained authority for their authenticity in who they came from and as such valued amongst early Christendom as authoritative sources to Christ himself. So, we have an early tradition of Christians authenticating certain books of Scripture, and such Scripture becoming adopted as an authoritative source within Christianity, not foregoing other valuable sources within Christian theology such as experience and reason...

But, in any case... it just isn't as simple as saying all Christian denominations are based upon the Bible.

Sorry, just being me.

IMO that was really well said K.