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I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
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Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
I don't think anybody here is judging you,we are simply trying to address the point you brought up.Not trying to judge you or your salvation,etc. You asked about it,so we are just trying to give you an answer biblically.I think there are questions that we all have and there is nothing wrong with questioning,however we must be careful not to let our questioning lead to doubt because of our human reasoning.
Hebrews 12:2-3 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith;who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross,despising the shame,and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

2nd Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not,lest the light of this glorious gospel of Christ,who is the image of God,should shine unto them.
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Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
Wouldn't have been a great experience if you don't understand Greek or Aramaic.

They'd probably throw you in jail for your funny accent.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
Wouldn't have been a great experience if you don't understand Greek or Aramaic.

They'd probably throw you in jail for your funny accent.
Hey, the kiwi accent was there in the beginning before the fall ;) :P
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Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
Wouldn't have been a great experience if you don't understand Greek or Aramaic.

They'd probably throw you in jail for your funny accent.
Ah but love has no language y:x ...besides..we could play charades :mrgreen:
Yes, I'm sure charades would go really well. You could act out 20th century movies, like schindlers list.
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
Wouldn't have been a great experience if you don't understand Greek or Aramaic.

They'd probably throw you in jail for your funny accent.
Ah but love has no language y:x ...besides..we could play charades :mrgreen:
Yes, I'm sure charades would go really well. You could act out 20th century movies, like schindlers list.
What is it with you superfast mods who quote me before I edit?! :shock:
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Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
Wouldn't have been a great experience if you don't understand Greek or Aramaic.

They'd probably throw you in jail for your funny accent.
Ah but love has no language y:x ...besides..we could play charades :mrgreen:
Yes, I'm sure charades would go really well. You could act out 20th century movies, like schindlers list.
What is it with you superfast mods who quote me before I edit?! :shock:
What can I say but I am very prompt at answering your posts, because you are very important to me!
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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Nessa wrote:I guess I just feel like you guys are missing my point.

As I mentioned, Jesus himself said it was better that he goes. I believe that.

Just because the spiritual.relationship may be superior, I still give high value and significance to his life here as a man. As a son, a brother, a friend. I just wish I had been there to experience him in that way.
Or be able to read about him that way.
I get what you mean nessa, about knowing him as a man.
Not sure how popular this will be but The Shack by WM Paul Young, for me, although a harrowing subject matter, gave an impression of what he may be like as a man.
Faith is a knowledge within the heart, beyond the reach of proof - Kahlil Gibran
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RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote: Wouldn't have been a great experience if you don't understand Greek or Aramaic.

They'd probably throw you in jail for your funny accent.
Ah but love has no language y:x ...besides..we could play charades :mrgreen:
Yes, I'm sure charades would go really well. You could act out 20th century movies, like schindlers list.
What is it with you superfast mods who quote me before I edit?! :shock:
What can I say but I am very prompt at answering your posts, because you are very important to me!
Ewww! I just put my hand in my pocket*..

Oh rick :shakehead:

*to piss in someones pocket is a false form of flattery according to our beloved australians :mrgreen:
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Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
RickD wrote:
Nessa wrote:
Ah but love has no language y:x ...besides..we could play charades :mrgreen:
Yes, I'm sure charades would go really well. You could act out 20th century movies, like schindlers list.
What is it with you superfast mods who quote me before I edit?! :shock:
What can I say but I am very prompt at answering your posts, because you are very important to me!
Ewww! I just put my hand in my pocket*..

Oh rick :shakehead:

*to piss in someones pocket is a false form of flattery according to our beloved australians :mrgreen:
I'm truly hurt that you'd think that about me. What is it with you women, anyways? You think I'm peeing in your pocket, Storyteller is trying to ignore me, and Mel is so mean, she always makes me cry. :crying:
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24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.


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Actually, this conversation is rather hilarious! I mean, people are complaining because Jesus isn't how THEY prefer Him to be, doesn't meet their expectations of how THEY think He should interact. Isn't that kind of what Kenny's problem is - except that He doesn't believe? He's constantly saying that because God doesn't interact or show Himself in the way Ken desires, that this is why he can't believe. I'm not making fun of our struggle to want to know Jesus on a deeper level, it's just that part of this dialogue seems kinda, well, silly.
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Philip,

How dare you make fun of the weaker sex women here?

You're nothing but a male show violinist pig!
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Philip wrote:Actually, this conversation is rather hilarious! I mean, people are complaining because Jesus isn't how THEY prefer Him to be, doesn't meet their expectations of how THEY think He should interact. Isn't that kind of what Kenny's problem is - except that He doesn't believe? He's constantly saying that because God doesn't interact or show Himself in the way Ken desires, that this is why he can't believe. I'm not making fun of our struggle to want to know Jesus on a deeper level, it's just that part of this dialogue seems kinda, well, silly.
How dare you insult kenny by comparing him to me! :shock: :P

Yes, phil, I agree there is a simiarilty there hence my saying I know I am missing my own point etc. But what I am saying is still true.
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Nessie, now you can see why I get in trouble at my house all the time - that is, saying what I think, in the moment. I think it's too late for me to change. :econfused: Perhaps Rick could coach me on being a more sensitive man with the fairer sex? 8-}2 y:-? :shock: :esurprised: :? ... ah, on the other hand...
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Philip wrote:Nessie, now you can see why I get in trouble at my house all the time - that is, saying what I think, in the moment. I think it's too late for me to change. :econfused: Perhaps Rick could coach me on being a more sensitive man with the fairer sex? 8-}2 y:-? :shock: :esurprised: :? ... ah, on the other hand...
Rick? Teach you sensitivity?

"Now when you ask your wife for a sammich, you must add some sensitivity..'please dearest, use gentle hands when you make me a sammich...'....got it, phil?' ;)

Thats rick being sensitive to his wife....not wanting her to be harsh with his sammich...cos it might get squashed :roll: :mrgreen:
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