Why Hillary Wins!

[edwardmurphy]

That's another lie, ACB. They said that nobody had taken credit for the attack and speculated that it was most likely either ISIS or Kurdish separatists. They've updated the story as more information comes in.

Are you criticizing them for failing to make an hysterical rush to judgement before the facts were in? If so, would that be a sensible criticism?

[RickD]

That's another lie, ACB. They said that nobody had taken credit for the attack and speculated that it was most likely either ISIS or Kurdish separatists. They've updated the story as more information comes in.

Are you criticizing them for failing to make an hysterical rush to judgement before the facts were in? If so, would that be a sensible criticism?

No lie. No jumping to conclusions.
One-armed ISIS commander eyed as master ... sacre.html
Why does the left have such difficulty calling a spade a spade?

[edwardmurphy]

That's another lie, ACB. They said that nobody had taken credit for the attack and speculated that it was most likely either ISIS or Kurdish separatists. They've updated the story as more information comes in.

Are you criticizing them for failing to make an hysterical rush to judgement before the facts were in? If so, would that be a sensible criticism?

No lie. No jumping to conclusions.
One-armed ISIS commander eyed as master ... sacre.html
Why does the left have such difficulty calling a spade a spade?

I'm not "the left," and yes, the claim that the "liberal media" (or any media) said that they had no idea who was behind the attack is a lie. They said that they didn't know, but that they could make some educated guesses. Then they made some guesses, one of which ended up being correct.

The problem isn't calling a spade a spade, it's being in such a rush to be the first one to call it a spade that you don't get all of the facts right and you end up mislabeling a club. ACB appears to be arguing that it's okay to make snap judgements before you have the facts. I strongly disagree.

[abelcainsbrother]

That's another lie, ACB. They said that nobody had taken credit for the attack and speculated that it was most likely either ISIS or Kurdish separatists. They've updated the story as more information comes in.

Are you criticizing them for failing to make an hysterical rush to judgement before the facts were in? If so, would that be a sensible criticism?

No lie. No jumping to conclusions.
One-armed ISIS commander eyed as master ... sacre.html
Why does the left have such difficulty calling a spade a spade?

I'm not "the left," and yes, the claim that the "liberal media" (or any media) said that they had no idea who was behind the attack is a lie. They said that they didn't know, but that they could make some educated guesses. Then they made some guesses, one of which ended up being correct.

The problem isn't calling a spade a spade, it's being in such a rush to be the first one to call it a spade that you don't get all of the facts right and you end up mislabeling a club. ACB appears to be arguing that it's okay to make snap judgements before you have the facts. I strongly disagree.

I cannot believe you are willing to defend the media that acts like it does not know who did it. You must play dumb to defend it.It was obvious from the moment it was first reported.

[edwardmurphy]

If it was obvious to you then it's obvious to me that you're unaware that there's also a Kurdish insurgency in Turkey. It could have been either Kurds, or ISIS. It could have been Al-Qaeda. The point here is that the media's job is to report facts, not to speculate. Knowing and assuming are not the same thing, and the media isn't supposed to say that they know something until they actually do.

ACB, if we play it your way then the media was remiss for not reporting that there was a radical Muslim shooter on the loose today at Joint Base Andrews. If they'd rushed to judgement they'd have created a panic, worried a lot of people, and been completely wrong.

You're so busy looking for things to blame on "the left" that you're blinding yourself to the fact that you're getting your skivvies in a twist over trivial details, and worse yet, mistaking reasonable restraint for weakness.

[abelcainsbrother]

If it was obvious to you then it's obvious to me that you're unaware that there's also a Kurdish insurgency in Turkey. It could have been either Kurds, or ISIS. It could have been Al-Qaeda. The point here is that the media's job is to report facts, not to speculate. Knowing and assuming are not the same thing, and the media isn't supposed to say that they know something until they actually do.

ACB, if we play it your way then the media was remiss for not reporting that there was a radical Muslim shooter on the loose today at Joint Base Andrews. If they'd rushed to judgement they'd have created a panic, worried a lot of people, and been completely wrong.

You're so busy looking for things to blame on "the left" that you're blinding yourself to the fact that you're getting your skivvies in a twist over trivial details, and worse yet, mistaking reasonable restraint for weakness.

You're just not informed enough and you are doubting the wrong person while trusting the wrong people who are misleading you.It is not reasonable restraint being shown by the left and media it is misinformation and being naive and dangerous in order to help prop up Hillary and cover for her.The problem is though that Islamic terrorists are blowing it for them,every attack hurts them and helps Trump.

[edwardmurphy]

Do you seriously believe that Clinton, the media, and "the left" are conspiring to bring as many Muslims here as possible with as little oversight as possible in the suicidal hope that they'll somehow conquer us and institute Sharia law?

[abelcainsbrother]

Do you seriously believe that Clinton, the media, and "the left" are conspiring to bring as many Muslims here as possible with as little oversight as possible in the suicidal hope that they'll somehow conquer us and institute Sharia law?

I believe they are setting America up for future Islamic terrorist attacks.It is a no-brainer.But I'm going by what the FBI,Homeland Security,etc have been warning about,while you are choosing to believe the media during an election,Obama and Hillary. I know you have a hard time believing this,but you are just not informed like you think. You see,with me? It is not because of Trump that I am aware of the threat of Islamic terrorism. It is something I have been warning about for years and so that now we are seeing what I have been warning about. Now you may say it is a silly conspiracy theory but it is something that I have kept up with through the years,on and off. So it is not because of Trump that I suddenly see the probem. I have been seeing the warning signs for years and I'm not the only one. The information is out there if a person wants to better understand it,but it has been overlooked by people.

The thing is though is actually pulling it off,but regardless if you think they can or not,there are Muslims that have the will to do it and have been planning and talking about it for along time. I have been hoping and waiting for a Presidential candidate like Trump who understands the threat also,because I know based on my research Islamic terrorism is coming to the west unless we take steps to protect ourselves. I think Europe is waking up,to the threat and now America needs to. See you don't know that Islamic terrorists have been planning for years.I'm talking 20-30 years ago about infiltrating the west and using jihad to destroy them from the inside out,using jihad to do it and using the laws like freedom of religion to their advantage,so they have been planning and talking about it for years and now the west,especially Europe has got a taste of it. So this is nothing new to me.

[RickD]

Do you seriously believe that Clinton, the media, and "the left" are conspiring to bring as many Muslims here as possible with as little oversight as possible in the suicidal hope that they'll somehow conquer us and institute Sharia law?

Conspiring under the guise of not wanting to offend. The time for political correctness is gone.

[edwardmurphy]

You guys keep saying that. If we're so desperate to avoid giving offense then why are we launching drone strikes, bomber sorties, and commando raids against Islamic terror suspects all over the world? Why is it necessary to also insult their faith and all its adherents? Are you confused by the whole "Winning their hearts and minds" concept?

[melanie]

It was the PKK.
The Kurdish Workers Party
fighting for freedoms we can't fathom and instilling ideologies that change a people towards violence.

[melanie]

But here in the West, We'll think it was Isis.
Same but different
Apparently

[RickD]

Well, when the PM of turkey says ISIS is behind the attack...

And all evidence points to the Islamic state...

[RickD]

It was the PKK.
The Kurdish Workers Party
fighting for freedoms we can't fathom and instilling ideologies that change a people towards violence.

A Kurdish militant group took responsibility for a car bomb in Istanbul. Maybe you're getting your terror attacks confused.

[JButler]

In 1980 the "common wisdom" was no way could Ronald Reagan win because no actor had ever been President before! We know how well "common knowledge" fared in that one. Reagan and his advisors were tuned into the widespread anger and dissatisfaction of the average American with the state of affairs.

Trump is a smart guy whether you like him or not. He also is tuned into the bubbling cauldron of the unhappy average American. I think its a safe bet that Donald has closely studied Ronald.

Bill Clinton could get away with all his crookedness because of his personality. Hillary does not have that all, if anything she has the opposite.