Umm, I know this wasn't directed at me.... but, isn't Barack Obama Michelle's wife?edwardmurphy wrote:So ACB, how do you justify these comments? Why do you believe these things? What makes you think it's okay to say that the First Lady is actually a man? Why is the right so vicious and terrible?
I anxiously await your response.
First off,the left is known for slander and I find it very hard to believe you cannot remember how vicious the liberal news media was to Sara Palin,but it is not just the news media,it is also comedians and TV talk shows that use comedy to poke fun at the things being said about her and it all adds up. These people on the left calling Sara Palin a s lut,w hore,t wat are far far worse things than anything Trump has said about anybody in this campaign and in all cases they all attacjed Trump first and that was my original point and I stick behind it. It was years ago also when the left smeared Sara Palin but she is just one example. You posting YouTube comments by random people we do not even know is not at all the same as to how the left uses the news media and comedians on SNL,late night talk shows,etc to stoke these smears by the left. I certainly don' t condone a lot of the foul language that is used but at the same time I can understand the American people's anger after so much corruption in government has been exposed and people express their anger in foul mouth ways sometimes but there is a such thing as righteous anger that is based on the truth about government corruption. I mean the evidence is out there for people to see,yet it is considered conspiracy theory to a lot of people who either have not seen the evidence or are just ignoring it. It really comes down to truth,how much evidence a person has to make a claim and its on a case by case basis.As far as Michelle Obama being a man? I don't know enough about it to know if it is true or not,but I doubt it. However Hillary is the one who started the birther issue against Obama in 2008 when she was running against Obama and there is video of both Michelle Obama and Barack claiming he has been born in Kenya,it really seems to me to be just more truth coming out that was covered up.edwardmurphy wrote:Yep, those are some pretty nasty comments, but they were made by individual citizens, not members of the Obama campaign, campaign surrogates, or the news media. And how do you even know that the commenters were progressives? Plenty of people all across the political spectrum are united by their belief that Sarah Palin sucks. But I digress...
Are you suggesting that every presumably progressive individual speaks for all progressives and that the entire progressive movement should be held accountable for any statement made by any presumed member of said movement?
If that's the case then the same rule would apply to conservatives.
Suddenly I'm wondering how hard it would be to find conservatives saying hateful things. Probably pretty tough.
...30 seconds later...
Turns out it wasn't tough at all. I just went on YouTube, typed "Obama," hit enter, clicked the first couple of links that came up, scrolled to the comments sections, and BAM!, I was basking in the flames of conservative outrage, hatred, and racial antipathy. Here's a sample - I hope the profanity filter is up to the task:
And finally, we have this gem - Michelle Obama Replaces Hillary Clinton And Becomes First Transgender President?ExIm Asia3 hours ago
I suppose your lies are conspiracy theories too. Right. You are unfit *****!
AARONNOW393 hours ago
I do not care where Oblame'a was born!!!! I care that this pile of monkey [poop] has done everything he can to [love] America and Americans over!!!!
Joe pie3 hours ago
This stupid ***** hurts my soul when i watch her speak. Obama said himself he was born in Kenya there is a video look it up.
Bly Cat2 hours ago
TRUMP DOESN'T OWE [poop]. HOW ABOUT YOU HEIFER...YOU CHEATED AMERICA OUT OF 8 YEARS OF FRIGGEN MISERY AND SO DID YOUR BLACK BOY.
NuckinFutz663 hours ago
All i know is Obama's mom shoulda just swallowed him instead!!!!!
Jelena Vavic1 hour ago
I do NOT see how a black person can be an American. It's just NOT POSSIBLE. If I gave birth in stable, that doesn't mean my child is a horse. So likewise, a black-skinned person born in America, is still an African. Always will be.
So ACB, how do you justify these comments? Why do you believe these things? What makes you think it's okay to say that the First Lady is actually a man? Why is the right so vicious and terrible?
I anxiously await your response.
This is another of the multitude of ridiculous lies that Trump still continues to spew out on a regular basis.abelcainsbrother wrote:However Hillary is the one who started the birther issue against Obama in 2008 when she was running against Obama and there is video of both Michelle Obama and Barack claiming he has been born in Kenya,it really seems to me to be just more truth coming out that was covered up.
Because I have kept up with Trump I know there is nothing to the above.abelcainsbrother wrote:If you've kept up with politics it doesn't take much to realize nothing Trump has said in this whole campaign even comes close to the hateful,mean-spirited slander the left has used against the right and Conservatives.Liberals have absolutely no room to be trying to paint Trump as the bad guy bully. For those of us in the know it is actually awesome that we finally have a Republican candidate that is not a wimp politically and actually fights and hits back politically. Ed is just so used to the wimpy politically correct Republicans of the past like George W Bush who never faught back,never even tried to explain himself and just let liberals and the news media smear him over the war in Iraq,so much so that Bush was unpopular by the time Obama ran,and Obama won easily. We have seen what wimpyness in politics leads to and are glad to have somebody like Trump who fights back politically and the Republican primaries primed him and gave him experience and we see how effective it is when Trump fights back politically instead of just taking it. It is about time,now Rush Limbaugh,etc won't have to defend Trump as much because he will be fighting them head on politically.Kurieuo wrote:How prophetic. Sure you're not affiliated with Cruz's dad?RickD wrote:Who here besides ACB, is going to defend the stupid things trump says?ultimate777 wrote:Why should Trump be held accountable for what he says and does just because Hillary should?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... aw7&wpmm=1
Please somebody come to his rescue and divert attention away from his harmless boo-boos.
Saying Hillary is worse should do it. You know, saying it makes it so.
D, what are you trying to prove with:DBowling wrote:This is another of the multitude of ridiculous lies that Trump still continues to spew out on a regular basis.abelcainsbrother wrote:However Hillary is the one who started the birther issue against Obama in 2008 when she was running against Obama and there is video of both Michelle Obama and Barack claiming he has been born in Kenya,it really seems to me to be just more truth coming out that was covered up.
Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim Hillary Clinton started Obama birther movement
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -clinton-/
Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim that he 'finished' the Obama birther talk
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... d-obama-b/
I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the person who perpetuated the birther lie for 5 years would attempt to deflect attention away from his own repeated dishonesty by perpetuating another lie that Clinton started the birther nonsense.
They only veer left when the threats against their collective families start to get too detailed. But in between those times, they're pretty decent.ultimate777 wrote: You know darn well that Politifact is merely a wholly-owned subsidiary of the Commie-Pinko left, so cut it out
ultimate777 wrote:Because I have kept up with Trump I know there is nothing to the above.abelcainsbrother wrote:If you've kept up with politics it doesn't take much to realize nothing Trump has said in this whole campaign even comes close to the hateful,mean-spirited slander the left has used against the right and Conservatives.Liberals have absolutely no room to be trying to paint Trump as the bad guy bully. For those of us in the know it is actually awesome that we finally have a Republican candidate that is not a wimp politically and actually fights and hits back politically. Ed is just so used to the wimpy politically correct Republicans of the past like George W Bush who never faught back,never even tried to explain himself and just let liberals and the news media smear him over the war in Iraq,so much so that Bush was unpopular by the time Obama ran,and Obama won easily. We have seen what wimpyness in politics leads to and are glad to have somebody like Trump who fights back politically and the Republican primaries primed him and gave him experience and we see how effective it is when Trump fights back politically instead of just taking it. It is about time,now Rush Limbaugh,etc won't have to defend Trump as much because he will be fighting them head on politically.Kurieuo wrote:How prophetic. Sure you're not affiliated with Cruz's dad?RickD wrote:Who here besides ACB, is going to defend the stupid things trump says?ultimate777 wrote:Why should Trump be held accountable for what he says and does just because Hillary should?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... aw7&wpmm=1
Please somebody come to his rescue and divert attention away from his harmless boo-boos.
Saying Hillary is worse should do it. You know, saying it makes it so.
However, if you are in to the end times, you should vote for Trump. He very well might
bring it on.
I wanted a candidate like that, someone who could really destabilize the world. I thought Bernie Sander's kook policies might be enough to finally tip humpty-dumpty over, but he got knocked out before the fight even began. Hillary is a parasite, and it is in the interest of parasites to keep their hosts alive as long as possible. Sorry but I'm not interested in extending the pain even longer.ultimate777 wrote:
Because I have kept up with Trump I know there is nothing to the above.
However, if you are in to the end times, you should vote for Trump. He very well might
bring it on.
Consider a different perspective and consider the evidence.DBowling wrote:This is another of the multitude of ridiculous lies that Trump still continues to spew out on a regular basis.abelcainsbrother wrote:However Hillary is the one who started the birther issue against Obama in 2008 when she was running against Obama and there is video of both Michelle Obama and Barack claiming he has been born in Kenya,it really seems to me to be just more truth coming out that was covered up.
Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim Hillary Clinton started Obama birther movement
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -clinton-/
Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim that he 'finished' the Obama birther talk
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... d-obama-b/
I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the person who perpetuated the birther lie for 5 years would attempt to deflect attention away from his own repeated dishonesty by perpetuating another lie that Clinton started the birther nonsense.
I'll definitely agree that Trump played the media.abelcainsbrother wrote:Consider a different perspective and consider the evidence.DBowling wrote:This is another of the multitude of ridiculous lies that Trump still continues to spew out on a regular basis.abelcainsbrother wrote:However Hillary is the one who started the birther issue against Obama in 2008 when she was running against Obama and there is video of both Michelle Obama and Barack claiming he has been born in Kenya,it really seems to me to be just more truth coming out that was covered up.
Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim Hillary Clinton started Obama birther movement
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -clinton-/
Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim that he 'finished' the Obama birther talk
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... d-obama-b/
I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the person who perpetuated the birther lie for 5 years would attempt to deflect attention away from his own repeated dishonesty by perpetuating another lie that Clinton started the birther nonsense.
Trump Plays Media Like A Fiddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGt1ygBse9w
Well I think Ted Cruz was the conman going out talking about his faith in Christ and then turned around and lied about his record when it was brought up by Trump after he attacked Trump in the debates.DBowling wrote:I'll definitely agree that Trump played the media.abelcainsbrother wrote:Consider a different perspective and consider the evidence.DBowling wrote:This is another of the multitude of ridiculous lies that Trump still continues to spew out on a regular basis.abelcainsbrother wrote:However Hillary is the one who started the birther issue against Obama in 2008 when she was running against Obama and there is video of both Michelle Obama and Barack claiming he has been born in Kenya,it really seems to me to be just more truth coming out that was covered up.
Fact-checking Donald Trump's claim Hillary Clinton started Obama birther movement
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... -clinton-/
Donald Trump's Pants on Fire claim that he 'finished' the Obama birther talk
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter ... d-obama-b/
I guess it shouldn't surprise me that the person who perpetuated the birther lie for 5 years would attempt to deflect attention away from his own repeated dishonesty by perpetuating another lie that Clinton started the birther nonsense.
Trump Plays Media Like A Fiddle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGt1ygBse9w
He's been playing the media ever since the Primary season.
Give credit where credit is due. Trump is a con-man who has mastered the art of manipulating the media.
He is also a serial liar (which goes along with being a proficient con-man).
And his claim that Clinton started the birther nonsense is nothing more than another lie perpetuated by Trump as fact checks from multiple sources have demonstrated.
And even after the appropriate documents were made public, Trump continued to perpetuate the birther lie for another 3 years.
... until political expediency just recently convinced him to come clean on the birther issue.
Take another look at your article...Kurieuo wrote:Though here is an article that supports with evidence it did in fact appear to start with Hillary's campaign:
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/7-ne ... irtherism/
So the facts are:The idea that Obama was born elsewhere, specifically Kenya, was first floated in April 2008, according to a 22 April 2011 Politico article by Ben Smith and Byron Tau on the origins of birtherism:
That Hillary Clinton supporters circulated such an e-mail isn't in question, but the claim that that's the moment the birther theory "first emerged" simply isn't true. The likeliest point of origin we've been able to find was a post on conservative message board FreeRepublic.com dated 1 March 2008 (which, according to a report in The Telegraph, was at least a month before Clinton supporters got on the e-mail bandwagon):That theory first emerged in the spring of 2008, as Clinton supporters circulated an anonymous e-mail questioning Obama’s citizenship.
“Barack Obama’s mother was living in Kenya with his Arab-African father late in her pregnancy. She was not allowed to travel by plane then, so Barack Obama was born there and his mother then took him to Hawaii to register his birth,” asserted one chain email that surfaced on the urban legend site Snopes.com in April 2008.
The same rumor was repeated, with elaborations, four days later on the conservative blog Ruthless Roundup:I was told today that Obama swore in on a Koran for his Senate seat. I do not believe he did. Can someone clarify this for me? I am under the impression only a Congressman has so far sworn in on a Koran.
Also that Obama’s mother gave birth to him overseas and then immediately flew into Hawaii and registered his birth as having taken place in Hawaii.
Again, any clarifications on this? Defintely disqualifies him for Prez. There must be some trace of an airticket. While small babies are not charged air fare they do have a ticket issued for them.
Long time ago but there may be some residual information somewhere. Good ammo (if available and true) BEST USED AFTER he becomes PREZ (if that occurs) and it’s too late for Dems - except accept the VP.
The conspiracy theory was already fully formed at this point. Clearly, the Clinton supporters accused of spreading it via forwarded e-mails knew "good ammo" when they saw it, but, as the above posts show, they deserve neither credit nor blame for the invention of birtherism.Add to the family history shown in this article that Obama's mother was allegedly visiting Kenya with Obama's father in the final months of her pregnancy and was not allowed to board a flight in her late term to return home.
She allegedly had Obama in Kenya and quickly boarded a flight to Hawaii. Airlines do not accept late term pregancies but do not refuse passage to a newborn, usually issuing a 10% or free fare ticket for the trip.
Once in Hawaii, his mother registered him as being born in Hawaii.