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Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 11:28 am
by edwardmurphy
I'm sure there was plenty of ginned-up outrage in conservative circles, just like there was every time Obama saluted with a cup of coffee in his hand, or mentioned God fewer than 40 times during a holiday address, or insisted that he was the President.

What are you getting at here? Are you really unable to see why Obama's comments are unimportant and Trump's are game-changing?

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 1:50 pm
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:I'm sure there was plenty of ginned-up outrage in conservative circles, just like there was every time Obama saluted with a cup of coffee in his hand, or mentioned God fewer than 40 times during a holiday address, or insisted that he was the President.

What are you getting at here? Are you really unable to see why Obama's comments are unimportant and Trump's are game-changing?

The only people who are upset about this and are making a big deal out of this are the media that is doing everything they can to stop Trump and help Hillary,the establishment both parties and the globalists. The average American will not think this hurts Trump,at all. Trump never ran as a righteous preacher man and acknowledged his faith but did not over do it.So this will not stick and its going to backfire on those making a big deal out of this.The American people have never been offended by a womanizing President like JFK,Bill Clinton, the thing that made Americans mad was Clinton lying about it. Had he admitted it about Monica nobody would have said much. Much of America does not know Bill Clinton has women accusing him of rape though,and he settled several of these cases out of court.The American people don't care much if they think it is consensual.

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:23 pm
by edwardmurphy
Yep, I'm sure that's an accurate reflection of reality.

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2016 2:37 pm
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:Yep, I'm sure that's an accurate reflection of reality.
You'll see. It is a good thing we have good people in government that see the corruption in government and are tired of it and they leaked this info about how the Democrats are going to accuse Donald Trump of raping little girls so that we can ignore it when we hear it.It might do damage to Trump if we didn't know about it before they do it.We know how the liberal slander machine has worked in the past,but people are tired of it and its not going to work this time.We will not vote for Hillary so that she can be impeached and somebody else becomes President.

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 1:04 pm
by edwardmurphy
abelcainsbrother wrote:You'll see. It is a good thing we have good people in government that see the corruption in government and are tired of it and they leaked this info about how the Democrats are going to accuse Donald Trump of raping little girls so that we can ignore it when we hear it.
Huh. Look at that, there's a grain of truth to this one. Here are some more details. A couple of things come to mind -

1) Reporting an event that happened (such as a lawsuit being filed) isn't a "smear," even if it's potentially bad for Donald Trump.

2) The case was initially filed in California back in April, dismissed in May, and refiled in New York in June. The liberal media knows it's out there but hasn't really reported it. Kinda seems like they're reacting with skepticism. Not sure that fits your narrative...
abelcainsbrother wrote:It might do damage to Trump if we didn't know about it before they do it.We know how the liberal slander machine has worked in the past,but people are tired of it and its not going to work this time.
Another way of looking at it is that it's less likely to do damage with the base if InfoWars preemptively feeds you a story that explains it away. That way if you hear it on the 6:00 news you're already primed to dismiss it as a liberal smear. And who knows, maybe it is. Or maybe it's true and Donald Trump repeatedly raped a child at a sex party held by a billionaire pedophile friend of his.

What a mess...

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:43 pm
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:You'll see. It is a good thing we have good people in government that see the corruption in government and are tired of it and they leaked this info about how the Democrats are going to accuse Donald Trump of raping little girls so that we can ignore it when we hear it.
Huh. Look at that, there's a grain of truth to this one. Here are some more details. A couple of things come to mind -

1) Reporting an event that happened (such as a lawsuit being filed) isn't a "smear," even if it's potentially bad for Donald Trump.

2) The case was initially filed in California back in April, dismissed in May, and refiled in New York in June. The liberal media knows it's out there but hasn't really reported it. Kinda seems like they're reacting with skepticism. Not sure that fits your narrative...
abelcainsbrother wrote:It might do damage to Trump if we didn't know about it before they do it.We know how the liberal slander machine has worked in the past,but people are tired of it and its not going to work this time.
Another way of looking at it is that it's less likely to do damage with the base if InfoWars preemptively feeds you a story that explains it away. That way if you hear it on the 6:00 news you're already primed to dismiss it as a liberal smear. And who knows, maybe it is. Or maybe it's true and Donald Trump repeatedly raped a child at a sex party held by a billionaire pedophile friend of his.

What a mess...
This is accusing Donald Trump of doing what Bill Clinton did.We knew this was coming because the establishment both parties are panicked and doing everything they can to take Trump out. This accusation already came up in the Republican primaries and it is a false accusation filed by Jane Doe,it has no substance to it but is being used as an October surprise and it is not going to work,but go ahead and believe it if you choose all it will prove is you like the government with the biased news media doing everything it can to protect their corruption from being exposed even more.This was a hit piece started by the Republican establishment - Billy Bush who are just as corrupt as the Democrats.They are going down by this Trump Revolution started by the Tea Party they forgot about!

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 11:19 pm
by edwardmurphy
abelcainsbrother wrote:This is accusing Donald Trump of doing what Bill Clinton did.
Bill Clinton didn't rape a child. A woman did accuse him of rape, but the case never went anywhere. I don't have enough evidence to say whether he's innocent or if there was a gross miscarriage of justice. Neither do you, but don't let that stop you. And by the same token, you have no way of knowing whether or not Trump's rape charge is legitimate.
abelcainsbrother wrote:We knew this was coming because the establishment both parties are panicked and doing everything they can to take Trump out.
Yep, that's where all the evidence seems to point. Absolutely. Your analysis is spot on.
abelcainsbrother wrote:This accusation already came up in the Republican primaries and it is a false accusation filed by Jane Doe,it has no substance to it but is being used as an October surprise and it is not going to work,but go ahead and believe it if you choose all it will prove is you like the government with the biased news media doing everything it can to protect their corruption from being exposed even more.
You don't know that it's false any more than you know that the allegation against Bill Clinton is true. You're just trying to align reality to suit your preferences.

Also, the story broke 6+ months ago, so I'm not seeing how it's an October Surprise.
abelcainsbrother wrote:This was a hit piece started by the Republican establishment - Billy Bush who are just as corrupt as the Democrats.They are going down by this Trump Revolution started by the Tea Party they forgot about!
So are you saying that 12 years ago Billy Bush baited Donald Trump into making all of those stupid statements at the behest of his shadowy political masters because they anticipated the current political situation and were looking for a way to derail Trump's future campaign at the last possible moment?

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:09 am
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:This is accusing Donald Trump of doing what Bill Clinton did.
Bill Clinton didn't rape a child. A woman did accuse him of rape, but the case never went anywhere. I don't have enough evidence to say whether he's innocent or if there was a gross miscarriage of justice. Neither do you, but don't let that stop you. And by the same token, you have no way of knowing whether or not Trump's rape charge is legitimate.
abelcainsbrother wrote:We knew this was coming because the establishment both parties are panicked and doing everything they can to take Trump out.
Yep, that's where all the evidence seems to point. Absolutely. Your analysis is spot on.
abelcainsbrother wrote:This accusation already came up in the Republican primaries and it is a false accusation filed by Jane Doe,it has no substance to it but is being used as an October surprise and it is not going to work,but go ahead and believe it if you choose all it will prove is you like the government with the biased news media doing everything it can to protect their corruption from being exposed even more.
You don't know that it's false any more than you know that the allegation against Bill Clinton is true. You're just trying to align reality to suit your preferences.

Also, the story broke 6+ months ago, so I'm not seeing how it's an October Surprise.
abelcainsbrother wrote:This was a hit piece started by the Republican establishment - Billy Bush who are just as corrupt as the Democrats.They are going down by this Trump Revolution started by the Tea Party they forgot about!
So are you saying that 12 years ago Billy Bush baited Donald Trump into making all of those stupid statements at the behest of his shadowy political masters because they anticipated the current political situation and were looking for a way to derail Trump's future campaign at the last possible moment?
Believe what you want to but there is nothing to this child rape thing.The info is out there just because liberals accuse him of it and have filed fake rape allegations does not make it true. We knew this was coming as I had warned. This is an attempt to slander Trump by the establishment who have never liked him.Even if it were true liberals and the media have no credibility to believe them. They've cried wolf too many times with their slander and we have seen it go no where no where after the damage is done and they've gotten their way. The bias in the media is unprecedented against Trump to where we see three on one at the debate. I mean even you should notice it,but you're used to this kind of slander and bias that they use.It is causing a backfire.You also ignore that it was not just one woman accusing Bill Clinton of rape.It has been a bunch going all the way back to his Arkansas days.These women were intimidated by Hillary to be quite about it. Three of these woman had a press conference yesterday and were sitting in the front row at the debate,yet you'd never know about them if Trump had not brought them. I told you months ago just wait until you see these women at the debates and they were.Trump is giving these women a voice since the media ignores them.

So now the Democrats are going to falsely accuse Trump of raping children and set it in motion during the primaries but its not going to work,but you can believe what you want to.

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2016 7:56 pm
by edwardmurphy
Kurieuo wrote:Let's see wait and see the women who now come forward like with the Clintons...
And so it begins -

Jessica Leeds, 74, told the Times that she sat beside Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York when she was 38. She didn't know him. Leeds said Trump groped her and tried to reach up her skirt. “His hands were everywhere,” she said.

Rachel Crooks, was at the time a 22-year-old receptionist at a real estate company in Trump Tower who said she came face to face with Trump outside an elevator there in 2005. She said that after she introduced herself to Trump and they shook hands, he would not let go, then kissed her cheeks and “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

“I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that,” she said.

Mindy McGillivray, 36, told the Palm Beach Post that Trump groped her rear end at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she was there accompanying a photographer friend who was shooting a Ray Charles concert.

“All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned," she said.

Cassandra Searles, Miss Washington 2013 - Trump treated pageant contestants “like cattle,” Searles wrote, “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my ass and invited me to his hotel room.”

And as I was typing this another one broke - People Magazine reporter Natasha Stoynoff.

Oh, and there's also the Howard Stern interview where Trump says that one of the perks of owning a pageant is that he could walk in on a bunch of naked models and get away with it. Stories are coming out about that as well, including some from teen pageant contestants.

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 9:30 am
by B. W.
Democrats stick together never abandoning their own presidential picks no matter if they were murders.

Anyone not seen this coming forgets the left's attack on Clarence Thomas... is standard fare...
Saul Alinsky’s 13 Rules for Radicals:

1. Power is not only what you have but what the enemy thinks you have.

2. Never go outside the experience of your people.

3. Whenever possible, go outside of the experience of the enemy.

4. Make the enemy live up to their own book of rules.

5. Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.

6. A good tactic is one that your people enjoy.

7. A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag.

8. Keep the pressure on with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose.

9. The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself.

10. The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition.

11. If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside.

12. The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative.

13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it.

Quoted from Rules for Radicals: A Pragmatic Primer for Realistic Radicals (1971).
What happens is we fight back and say go to h-ll Leftist - we don't care because:

Better to Vote for a pagan Cyrus rather than Jezebel

Re: Grab her by the what?

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2016 10:02 am
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:Let's see wait and see the women who now come forward like with the Clintons...
And so it begins -

Jessica Leeds, 74, told the Times that she sat beside Trump in the first-class cabin of a flight to New York when she was 38. She didn't know him. Leeds said Trump groped her and tried to reach up her skirt. “His hands were everywhere,” she said.

Rachel Crooks, was at the time a 22-year-old receptionist at a real estate company in Trump Tower who said she came face to face with Trump outside an elevator there in 2005. She said that after she introduced herself to Trump and they shook hands, he would not let go, then kissed her cheeks and “kissed me directly on the mouth.”

“I was so upset that he thought I was so insignificant that he could do that,” she said.

Mindy McGillivray, 36, told the Palm Beach Post that Trump groped her rear end at Mar-a-Lago in 2003 when she was there accompanying a photographer friend who was shooting a Ray Charles concert.

“All of a sudden I felt a grab, a little nudge. I think it’s Ken’s camera bag, that was my first instinct. I turn around and there’s Donald. He sort of looked away quickly. I quickly turned back, facing Ray Charles, and I’m stunned," she said.

Cassandra Searles, Miss Washington 2013 - Trump treated pageant contestants “like cattle,” Searles wrote, “He probably doesn’t want me telling the story about that time he continually grabbed my *** and invited me to his hotel room.”

And as I was typing this another one broke - People Magazine reporter Natasha Stoynoff.

Oh, and there's also the Howard Stern interview where Trump says that one of the perks of owning a pageant is that he could walk in on a bunch of naked models and get away with it. Stories are coming out about that as well, including some from teen pageant contestants.

It better be true because Trump is filing lawsuits for slander to ABC News

I do not believe about 90% of what the liberal media reports because of their slander,they have had a 6% approval rating since this election started.

Slander. For you


6% approval rating
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