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Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:07 pm
by Jac3510
A general? :-?

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:11 pm
by RickD
Jac3510 wrote:A general? :-?
Yes. Anthony Weiner is a 4 star General. Or in other words, Weiner is a ****. A 15 year old girl? Really?

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:29 pm
by edwardmurphy
RickD wrote:Hacked by Putin?

Sounds like somebody's been drinking some democratic conspiracy kool aid.
The NSA and the CIA (among others) said it was Russia. Are you saying that our intelligence agencies are in the pocket of the Democratic Party? If so then you're the one pushing conspiracy theories. If not then there is no conspiracy and it was Russia.
Jac3510 wrote:Suppose it was Putin's plan. That doesn't mean that American voters should ignore it. If she broke federal law, that's something that we should know before voting for her, and if you're willing to vote for her regardless, that says something terrible about you.
There's nothing to ignore. The FBI is conducting an investigation. At this point it's not a criminal investigation, and there's no way to know if it ever will be. Clinton hasn't been charged with anything, much less convicted, and neither of those things is going to happen in the next week and a half.

But since your bar is breaking Federal Law, can we take a second to recall that Trump broke Federal law when he refused to rent his apartments to black people? He also broke Federal law when he violated the Cuban Embargo. And I'm pretty sure that he broke Federal law again when he hired that undocumented demolition crew, denied them safety equipment, and refused to pay them. And that's just off the top of my head. I imagine that other instances have or will come up, too. So does that say something terrible about Trump voters?

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:39 pm
by RickD
mr. Ed wrote:
The NSA and the CIA (among others) said it was Russia. Are you saying that our intelligence agencies are in the pocket of the Democratic Party? If so then you're the one pushing conspiracy theories. If not then there is no conspiracy theory and it was Russia.
Why not? We know Clinton has the FBI in her back pocket. Does Comey ring a bell?

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:40 pm
by abelcainsbrother
LOL! It is funny seeing liberals try to make Trump out to be a criminal,worse than Hillary with their lies,slander and conspiracy theories. The MSM had a 6% approval rating before this election but they are trying their best to make it 0% approval rating. Nobody is going to believe them after this election.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:50 pm
by edwardmurphy
RickD wrote:
mr. Ed wrote:
The NSA and the CIA (among others) said it was Russia. Are you saying that our intelligence agencies are in the pocket of the Democratic Party? If so then you're the one pushing conspiracy theories. If not then there is no conspiracy theory and it was Russia.
Why not? We know Clinton has the FBI in her back pocket. Does Comey ring a bell?
The guy that just reopened the investigation is in Clinton's pocket? Yeah, I guess that makes sense.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 5:53 pm
by edwardmurphy
abelcainsbrother wrote:LOL! It is funny seeing liberals try to make Trump out to be a criminal,worse than Hillary with their lies,slander and conspiracy theories. The MSM had a 6% approval rating before this election but they are trying their best to make it 0% approval rating. Nobody is going to believe them after this election.
You get your information about the "mainstream media" from the alt-right media, so you have no idea what's going on and you're not qualified to have an opinion on the matter.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:16 pm
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:LOL! It is funny seeing liberals try to make Trump out to be a criminal,worse than Hillary with their lies,slander and conspiracy theories. The MSM had a 6% approval rating before this election but they are trying their best to make it 0% approval rating. Nobody is going to believe them after this election.
You get your information about the "mainstream media" from the alt-right media, so you have no idea what's going on and you're not qualified to have an opinion on the matter.
It was the mainstream media that reported the 6% approval rating before this election,so they know it,but do not care.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 6:54 pm
by edwardmurphy
They care, but what can they do? They're following the rules of journalism, doing research, citing sources, and so forth, and people like you are calling their work trash and getting all your news from InfoWars...

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 7:14 pm
by abelcainsbrother
edwardmurphy wrote:They care, but what can they do? They're following the rules of journalism, doing research, citing sources, and so forth, and people like you are calling their work trash and getting all your news from InfoWars...
I'm much more informed on the issues because I get my news and info from InfoWars and alternative news sources.I'd be a dumbed down low info voter if I relied on the mainstream media.For years conservatives have been saying they are biased and everything they do is to help the Democrats,but we have proof ABC,CBS,NBC,CNN,MSNBC,CNBC,New York Times,Washington Post,Huffington Post,etc are all in one way or another are coordinating and actively working with Hillary's campaign,against Bernie Sanders and now Trump to help her win. When you read or listen to them? It is the Hillary Campaign.Wikileaks proved this and veritas. Even oversampling poll numbers to show Hillary is winning,all planned out.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:07 pm
by Jac3510
edwardmurphy wrote:There's nothing to ignore. The FBI is conducting an investigation. At this point it's not a criminal investigation, and there's no way to know if it ever will be. Clinton hasn't been charged with anything, much less convicted, and neither of those things is going to happen in the next week and a half.

But since your bar is breaking Federal Law, can we take a second to recall that Trump broke Federal law when he refused to rent his apartments to black people? He also broke Federal law when he violated the Cuban Embargo. And I'm pretty sure that he broke Federal law again when he hired that undocumented demolition crew, denied them safety equipment, and refused to pay them. And that's just off the top of my head. I imagine that other instances have or will come up, too. So does that say something terrible about Trump voters?
My God, you really are such a tool. You're as bad as ACB. That's not hyperbole. You're absolutely and completely ridiculous, and like ACB can't see his own foolishness, you're blinded to your own, which only makes it so much more more pitiful.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:23 pm
by edwardmurphy
Jac3510 wrote:My God, you really are such a tool. You're as bad as ACB. That's not hyperbole. You're absolutely and completely ridiculous, and like ACB can't see his own foolishness, you're blinded to your own, which only makes it so much more more pitiful.
Have you read Comey's letter? It said virtually nothing. They found some emails, they're going to look at them, and they'll keep Congress posted. That's it.

This might blow up into a hell of a scandal, but it could also turn out that the emails in question are all duplicates of what they already have. It all depends on what the emails say. As far as I know the FBI hasn't even read them yet, so I'm going to withhold judgement until there's something to judge.

As for my blindness, meh, whatever.

My position on Trump, Clinton, and this whole mess lines up pretty well with what the editors of the Atlantic wrote when they gave their endorsement (which was only their third since 1857). It's a good read.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:29 pm
by Kurieuo
Jac3510 wrote:Kaine would be the person elected/sworn in.
Not necessarily, what about the Electorial College? Popular vote could go to Hillary but be handed to Trump if enough reason is felt, and public pressure is on. Although doubt it.

And, if Trump doesn't win the election, it'll be contested. Supreme Court could order a re-vote.

Public sentiment can apply a lot of pressure, which could sway judgement of the EC or SC.

I have no idea why Comey reopened, unless Hillary was a lot worse than even he knew. Possibly a distraction to take some heat off, possibly wait to see if Hillary's elected and then he can close the case and she could vice-versa protect him back. If Trump gets in, when then it really doesn't matter if they now move to prosecute Hillary and Comey looks trustworthy again. It doesn't make total sense to me, yet, but in time it might.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:01 pm
by abelcainsbrother
Kurieuo wrote:
Jac3510 wrote:Kaine would be the person elected/sworn in.
Not necessarily, what about the Electorial College? Popular vote could go to Hillary but be handed to Trump if enough reason is felt, and public pressure is on. Although doubt it.

And, if Trump doesn't win the election, it'll be contested. Supreme Court could order a re-vote.

Public sentiment can apply a lot of pressure, which could sway judgement of the EC or SC.

I have no idea why Comey reopened, unless Hillary was a lot worse than even he knew. Possibly a distraction to take some heat off, possibly wait to see if Hillary's elected and then he can close the case and she could vice-versa protect him back. If Trump gets in, when then it really doesn't matter if they now move to prosecute Hillary and Comey looks trustworthy again. It doesn't make total sense to me, yet, but in time it might.
People in the FBI are angry at Comey because they know he let her off and they have been putting pressure on Comey they know he has tarnished the reputation of the FBI,they know people have been convicted for far less,however Comey can do nothing without Obama OK'ing it. So if this goes anywhere it really suggests that Obama is against Hillary and does not want her to win.It could be for any a number of reasons. And if it does cause Hillary to have to drop out? The DNC can choose her replacement and early in this race we heard names like Joe Biden,John Kerry,etc come up as replacement's,so it has already been thought about by the Democratic Party.

Re: Clinton's FBI Investigation: 2.0

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 4:59 am
by DBowling
Here is the Text of Comey's Letter to Congress
Dear Messrs Chairmen:

In previous congressional testimony, I referred to the fact that the Federal Bureau of
Investigation (FBI) had completed its investigation of former Secretary Clinton's personal email
server. Due to recent developments, I am writing to supplement my previous testimony.

In connection with an unrelated case, the FBI has learned of the existence of emails that
appear to be pertinent to the investigation. I am writing to inform you that the investigative team
briefed me on this yesterday, and I agreed that the FBI should take investigative
steps designed to allow investigators to review these emails to determine whether they contain
classified information, as well as to assess their importance to our investigation.

Although the FBI cannot yet assess whether or not this material may be significant, and I
cannot predict how long it will take us to complete this additional work, I believe it is important
to update your Committees about our efforts in light of my previous testimony.

Sincerely yours,

James B. Comey
Director
Here is the text of Comey's letter to FBI employees
To all:

This morning I sent a letter to Congress in connection with the Secretary Clinton email investigation. Yesterday, the investigative team briefed me on their recommendation with respect to seeking access to emails that have recently been found in an unrelated case. Because those emails appear to be pertinent to our investigation, I agreed that we should take appropriate steps to obtain and review them.

Of course, we don’t ordinarily tell Congress about ongoing investigations, but here I feel an obligation to do so given that I testified repeatedly in recent months that our investigation was completed. I also think it would be misleading to the American people were we not to supplement the record. At the same time, however, given that we don’t know the significance of this newly discovered collection of emails, I don’t want to create a misleading impression. In trying to strike that balance, in a brief letter and in the middle of an election season, there is significant risk of being misunderstood, but I wanted you to hear directly from me about it.