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Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:03 am
by IceMobster
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Hortator wrote:This is probably a controversial view, but are we sure Vladimir Putin is as bad as we think he is?

I mean, according to prophecy, Israel will be threatened from the east (Islam) and the north (Russia/more Islam?) but maybe Putin is not the Ba'al we're looking for?
I agree,according to bible prophecy Russia will lead a coalition of Islamic nations in a war against Israel and nobody helps Israel,including the US,UK,etc and yet Israel wins this war because God himself will helps them win. But they seem to be no threat to the US,only Israel.
Ahahahaaaaaaaaa :lol:

Israelis did not accept the Son of Man and the Son of God. God has no obligations to them (nor to anyone for that matter).

Israel will win the war because it has more powerful military than some of their neighbours combined (and because USA is its close ally). Not because God chooses to do so. Or will He revert that one missile again? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You are beyond delusional.

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 7:29 am
by RickD
IceMobster wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Hortator wrote:This is probably a controversial view, but are we sure Vladimir Putin is as bad as we think he is?

I mean, according to prophecy, Israel will be threatened from the east (Islam) and the north (Russia/more Islam?) but maybe Putin is not the Ba'al we're looking for?
I agree,according to bible prophecy Russia will lead a coalition of Islamic nations in a war against Israel and nobody helps Israel,including the US,UK,etc and yet Israel wins this war because God himself will helps them win. But they seem to be no threat to the US,only Israel.
Ahahahaaaaaaaaa :lol:

Israelis did not accept the Son of Man and the Son of God. God has no obligations to them (nor to anyone for that matter).

Israel will win the war because it has more powerful military than some of their neighbours combined (and because USA is its close ally). Not because God chooses to do so. Or will He revert that one missile again? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You are beyond delusional.
He is delusional because of his biblical interpretation?

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Sat Dec 31, 2016 8:26 am
by Stu
IceMobster wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Hortator wrote:This is probably a controversial view, but are we sure Vladimir Putin is as bad as we think he is?

I mean, according to prophecy, Israel will be threatened from the east (Islam) and the north (Russia/more Islam?) but maybe Putin is not the Ba'al we're looking for?
I agree,according to bible prophecy Russia will lead a coalition of Islamic nations in a war against Israel and nobody helps Israel,including the US,UK,etc and yet Israel wins this war because God himself will helps them win. But they seem to be no threat to the US,only Israel.
Ahahahaaaaaaaaa :lol:

Israelis did not accept the Son of Man and the Son of God. God has no obligations to them (nor to anyone for that matter).

Israel will win the war because it has more powerful military than some of their neighbours combined (and because USA is its close ally). Not because God chooses to do so. Or will He revert that one missile again? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You are beyond delusional.
Says the molecules-to-man atheist :lol:

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:14 am
by IceMobster
RickD wrote:He is delusional because of his biblical interpretation?
Yes. Or would you claim no biblical interpretation can be delusional?
Stu wrote:Says the molecules-to-man atheist :lol:
I am no damn atheist.

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 4:35 am
by Stu
IceMobster wrote:
RickD wrote:He is delusional because of his biblical interpretation?
Yes. Or would you claim no biblical interpretation can be delusional?
Stu wrote:Says the molecules-to-man atheist :lol:
I am no damn atheist.
Ah, what are you then?

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 4:45 am
by abelcainsbrother
IceMobster wrote:
abelcainsbrother wrote:
Hortator wrote:This is probably a controversial view, but are we sure Vladimir Putin is as bad as we think he is?

I mean, according to prophecy, Israel will be threatened from the east (Islam) and the north (Russia/more Islam?) but maybe Putin is not the Ba'al we're looking for?
I agree,according to bible prophecy Russia will lead a coalition of Islamic nations in a war against Israel and nobody helps Israel,including the US,UK,etc and yet Israel wins this war because God himself will helps them win. But they seem to be no threat to the US,only Israel.
Ahahahaaaaaaaaa :lol:

Israelis did not accept the Son of Man and the Son of God. God has no obligations to them (nor to anyone for that matter).

Israel will win the war because it has more powerful military than some of their neighbours combined (and because USA is its close ally). Not because God chooses to do so. Or will He revert that one missile again? :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

You are beyond delusional.
Jesus said the Jews will be trodden down of the gentiles until the times of the gentiles be fulfilled,so people like you are fulfilling this prophecy but the bible then teaches God will turn back to the Jews his people and they will accept Jesus whom they had rejected but they go through the tribulation period. God has not broken the blood covenant he made with Abraham concerning his seed and 144,000 jews from the twelve tribes of Israel come out of the trib believing in Jesus.I don't think you read Ezekiel 38 because it says the opposite of what you say.
As far as diverting the missile? Learn the parable of the fig tree. Also both Jews and Gentiles were at the cross crucifying Jesus,so you cannot just blame Jews. Jesus was beaten and whipped by Roman soldiers and mocked by them. We were all at the cross through them crucifying Jesus and rejecting him.

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 10:38 am
by Hortator
Another thing about Putin, have you guys ever seen a national leader give such a pro-Christian proclamation like this before in recent memory? I don't even think the current Pope gives this much lip service.

I mean true, words are words, and Putin's actions certainly don't fit what he is saying. But that's my point, even if they are words, he is the *only* leader of a country I have seen give so much support to Christians and Christianity. If there are others I'm overlooking, please correct me.

Re: Putin on Religion and Western civilization

Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:47 pm
by edwardmurphy
I don't know if there are others currently paying lip service to Christianity. Probably, if it suits their interests to do so. The historical examples that stand out for me are Fransisco Franco and Benito Mussolini. Granted, both were fascists, but Franco wasn't such a bad guy.