no i am not changing what i said. God's plan was for no death. man brought death into the world (upon himself) by disobeying God. i didnt change anything, you just did not understand what i meantRickD wrote:Well, now you're changing what you said before. Now, it seems you're saying that "man brought death upon himself". That's quite different than no animal nor plant death, whatsoever.jenna wrote:God's plan was for no death. man brought death upon himself by going against God and eating the forbidden fruit.RickD wrote:How, pray tell, would any ecosystem function, if there was no death?jenna wrote:sadly, they arent. just a man thing i guess. but as far as death of any kind, that was never the plan. unfortunately, things dont always go according to plan.thatkidakayoungguy wrote:I'M STILL SERIOUS!
You're saying that God's original plan, was to have an earth, with all life, with no way of sustaining itself?
Sounds like a pretty crappy plan!
Where in the Bible does it say plants and animals dying was part of God's original plan?
- jenna
- Make me a Sammich Member
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:36 am
- Christian: Yes
- Sex: Female
- Creation Position: Gap Theory
Re: Where in the Bible does it say plants and animals dying was part of God's original plan?
some things are better left unsaid, which i generally realize after i have said them
- RickD
- Make me a Sammich Member
- Posts: 22063
- Joined: Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:59 am
- Christian: Yes
- Sex: Male
- Creation Position: Day-Age
- Location: Kitchen
Re: Where in the Bible does it say plants and animals dying was part of God's original plan?
Are you talking about human death, or death to all living things? Because, when you say something such as, "man brought death into the world (upon himself)", anyone who understands basic English, would think you are saying man brought death to himself, not necessarily to all living things.jenna wrote:no i am not changing what i said. God's plan was for no death. man brought death into the world (upon himself) by disobeying God. i didnt change anything, you just did not understand what i meantRickD wrote:Well, now you're changing what you said before. Now, it seems you're saying that "man brought death upon himself". That's quite different than no animal nor plant death, whatsoever.jenna wrote:God's plan was for no death. man brought death upon himself by going against God and eating the forbidden fruit.RickD wrote:How, pray tell, would any ecosystem function, if there was no death?jenna wrote: sadly, they arent. just a man thing i guess. but as far as death of any kind, that was never the plan. unfortunately, things dont always go according to plan.
You're saying that God's original plan, was to have an earth, with all life, with no way of sustaining itself?
Sounds like a pretty crappy plan!
Never mind actually. I really don't have the time to get into an argument about what you meant, vs what you actually said.
John 5:24
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
-
- Esteemed Senior Member
- Posts: 1414
- Joined: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:44 pm
- Christian: Yes
- Sex: Male
Re: Where in the Bible does it say plants and animals dying was part of God's original plan?
Seeing how u're a gap theorist, how do u reconcile that to the death of the original creation?jenna wrote:no i am not changing what i said. God's plan was for no death. man brought death into the world (upon himself) by disobeying God. i didnt change anything, you just did not understand what i meantRickD wrote:Well, now you're changing what you said before. Now, it seems you're saying that "man brought death upon himself". That's quite different than no animal nor plant death, whatsoever.jenna wrote:God's plan was for no death. man brought death upon himself by going against God and eating the forbidden fruit.RickD wrote:How, pray tell, would any ecosystem function, if there was no death?jenna wrote: sadly, they arent. just a man thing i guess. but as far as death of any kind, that was never the plan. unfortunately, things dont always go according to plan.
You're saying that God's original plan, was to have an earth, with all life, with no way of sustaining itself?
Sounds like a pretty crappy plan!
- jenna
- Make me a Sammich Member
- Posts: 1458
- Joined: Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:36 am
- Christian: Yes
- Sex: Female
- Creation Position: Gap Theory
Re: Where in the Bible does it say plants and animals dying was part of God's original plan?
and yet somehow you have the time to respond. imagine that.RickD wrote:Are you talking about human death, or death to all living things? Because, when you say something such as, "man brought death into the world (upon himself)", anyone who understands basic English, would think you are saying man brought death to himself, not necessarily to all living things.jenna wrote:no i am not changing what i said. God's plan was for no death. man brought death into the world (upon himself) by disobeying God. i didnt change anything, you just did not understand what i meantRickD wrote:Well, now you're changing what you said before. Now, it seems you're saying that "man brought death upon himself". That's quite different than no animal nor plant death, whatsoever.jenna wrote:God's plan was for no death. man brought death upon himself by going against God and eating the forbidden fruit.RickD wrote:
How, pray tell, would any ecosystem function, if there was no death?
You're saying that God's original plan, was to have an earth, with all life, with no way of sustaining itself?
Sounds like a pretty crappy plan!
Never mind actually. I really don't have the time to get into an argument about what you meant, vs what you actually said.
some things are better left unsaid, which i generally realize after i have said them