Evidence for God from Science

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote:People have a long history of giving up their lives for others

In our world. Prove it is materialistic.

I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?

Ken

Why the person would do that?

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote:People have a long history of giving up their lives for others

In our world. Prove it is materialistic.

I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?

Ken

Why the person would do that?

Love

K

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote:People have a long history of giving up their lives for others

In our world. Prove it is materialistic.

I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?

Ken

Why the person would do that?

Love

Chemical reactions.

Kurieuo wrote:

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:
In our world. Prove it is materialistic.

I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?

Ken

Why the person would do that?

Love

Chemical reactions.

Apparently falling in love affects the brain just like crack does

Nessa wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

Kenny wrote:

1over137 wrote:

Kenny wrote: I cannot prove to your satisfaction. But hypothetically speaking; what is to prevent a person living in a materialist world from giving up their life from someone else?

Ken

Why the person would do that?

Love

Chemical reactions.

Apparently falling in love affects the brain just like crack does

No, it can't actually work that way.

A material worldview would say that the physical chemistry creates an emotional affect where "we" feel this "falling in love". Yet, it can't work the other way around with "falling in love" affecting the brain unless one accepts mental states aren't all derived from physical states.

Kenny wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:What is the justification for life being sacred in a materialistic world view?

People will have their own reasons for labeling something sacred; it will usually vary from person to person.

Ken

But certainly not non-religious people?

I mean:
sa·cred
ˈsākrəd/Submit
adjective
connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.
"sacred rites"
synonyms: holy, hallowed, blessed, consecrated, sanctified, venerated, revered; archaicblest
"the priest entered the sacred place"
religious rather than secular.
"sacred music"
synonyms: religious, spiritual, devotional, church, ecclesiastical
"sacred music"
(of writing or text) embodying the laws or doctrines of a religion.
"a sacred Hindu text"

What is the meaning of sacred outside religion ??

PaulSacramento wrote:

Kenny wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:What is the justification for life being sacred in a materialistic world view?

People will have their own reasons for labeling something sacred; it will usually vary from person to person.

Ken

But certainly not non-religious people?

I mean:
sa·cred
ˈsākrəd/Submit
adjective
connected with God (or the gods) or dedicated to a religious purpose and so deserving veneration.
"sacred rites"
synonyms: holy, hallowed, blessed, consecrated, sanctified, venerated, revered; archaicblest
"the priest entered the sacred place"
religious rather than secular.
"sacred music"
synonyms: religious, spiritual, devotional, church, ecclesiastical
"sacred music"
(of writing or text) embodying the laws or doctrines of a religion.
"a sacred Hindu text"

What is the meaning of sacred outside religion ??

I believe sacred is like the word Holy; a term generally associated with religious belief.

So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?

PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?

Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!

Ken

I would go with you in circles Kenny.
Am leaving this conversation.
I have only one nerves.

1over137 wrote:
I have only one nerves.

Is that a Slovak idiom?

Kenny wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?

Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!

Ken

But you agreed that life is sacred, yes?

1over137 wrote:I would go with you in circles Kenny.
Am leaving this conversation.
I have only one nerves.

It's been nice discussing with you my friend!

K

PaulSacramento wrote:

Kenny wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?

Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!

Ken

But you agreed that life is sacred, yes?

I generally don't use the term "sacred" in casual conversation, but when discussing with people who do, I understand what it means to them.

Ken

Kenny wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:

Kenny wrote:

PaulSacramento wrote:So how would a non-religious/non-believer use it?

Personally I don't think a non-believer should use it; IMO its one of those terms that should be reserved for those who believe. But you know people nowadays!

Ken

But you agreed that life is sacred, yes?

I generally don't use the term "sacred" in casual conversation, but when discussing with people who do, I understand what it means to them.

Ken

Ah, understood, but do you agree? do you agree that life is sacred?