Evidence for God from Science

a human baby 10 weeks in the womb is a baby just as valuable as one 20 weeks in the womb, just as valuable as one 30 weeks in the womb, just as value as a newly born baby.

RickD wrote:Ultimate777, the OP of this thread has been banned. Can we get rid of this thread?

Nessa wrote:also there's nothing wrong with making distinctions in my opinion.

We make distinctions all the time between humans. It's when we start to do more than make distinctions and cause evil.

Nessa wrote:No, its not about me making a distinction, it's what was brought to the table. If someone wants to say a it's a fetus, that is there choice and it's up to us whether we will answer the question or not.

Fetus is a Latin word variously translated “offspring,” “young one,” or “little child.” Though fetus was once a good word that spoke of a young human being, it is now used with a subhuman connotation. Referring to the fetus allows us not to use the B-word (baby). The prochoice movement labors to avoid the B-word for it reminds us of the reality that abortion kills a child. This reality must be denied at all costs, because anyone who is understood to be arguing for the right to kill babies is fighting an uphill battle.

It is scientifically inaccurate to say an embryo or fetus is not a human being or doesn’t have worth simply because she’s at an earlier stage of development than a born infant. This is like saying that a toddler is not a human being—or is less of a human being—because she is not yet an adolescent. Or that an adolescent is not a human being because she is not yet an adult. Stage of development has nothing to do with human worth. Sadly, many people in our culture today have chosen to ignore this fact in order to justify abortion.

RickD wrote:Ultimate777, the OP of this thread has been banned. Can we get rid of this thread?

Philip wrote:

a human baby 10 weeks in the womb is a baby just as valuable as one 20 weeks in the womb, just as valuable as one 30 weeks in the womb, just as value as a newly born baby.

Absolutely, the second of fertilization, a human life exists, which continues until his last breath - with every step along that pathway - from being a tiny mass of cells / pre-born to newborn to an old man as he expires - HUMAN, made in God's image, precious!

LittleHamster wrote:There are special prayers for undeveloped souls held in purgatory, etc...

e.g.
"Eternal Father, I offer You the most Precious Blood of Your Divine Son, Jesus Christ, in union with the Masses said today, for all the Holy Souls in Purgatory, for sinners everywhere, for sinners in the Universal Church, those in my own home and within my family." Amen.

Many souls languish in purgatory because no one prays for them. I'm sure there are other versions around. But this one works.


edit: Origin of this prayer - Our Lord told Saint Gertrude the Great that this prayer would release 1,000 souls from Purgatory each time it is said. The prayer was later extended to include living sinners as well.

LittleHamster wrote:There are special prayers for undeveloped souls held in purgatory, etc...

e.g.
"Eternal Father, I offer You the most Precious Blood of Your Divine Son, Jesus Christ, in union with the Masses said today, for all the Holy Souls in Purgatory, for sinners everywhere, for sinners in the Universal Church, those in my own home and within my family." Amen.

Many souls languish in purgatory because no one prays for them. I'm sure there are other versions around. But this one works.


edit: Origin of this prayer - Our Lord told Saint Gertrude the Great that this prayer would release 1,000 souls from Purgatory each time it is said. The prayer was later extended to include living sinners as well.