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Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:55 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
All my waffle? Define waffle? Where I'm from, we eat waffles.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:57 pm
by Deborah
problem is evolution goes beyond the young earth theory.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 10:58 pm
by August
So what was the purpose of the thread again? Was it to say:

1. Evolution is not feasible because of the time required?
2. Comets were supposed to have died out a long time ago because there is no comet factory, and they crash into stuff all the time?
3. Both of the above?
4. None of the above?

How do you want us to play along if you won't tell us the rules?

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:02 pm
by Deborah
Deborah wrote:problem is evolution goes beyond the young earth theory.
more precisely micro evolution (they have proof for this) goes beyond the young earth theory.

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:07 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
The purpose of the thread was to bring up and discuss stories and flat out lies designed to keep evolution afloat. The Oort belt was one of them, because after millions, much less billions, of years, all comets should have been knocked out or burned out. This was not an attack on old earth creationists, because hopefully you guys believe in the flood, where it is theorized that comets and meteors (or is it asteroids, or both?) came from...

Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2005 11:10 pm
by August
I must admit, you have totally lost me with this theory. Can you please elaborate on the connection between the flood and the comets and asteroids?

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 10:25 am
by bizzt
OK what LIES have you heard about Evolution. Let's not get into the UNIVERSE and Stellar Evolution.

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 4:28 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
*Shoots thread, watches it slowly die*

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:43 pm
by Mastermind
I feel the need to repeat what August said: What does the flood have to do with comets and asteroids? This I've got to hear...

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:45 pm
by August
Yes, maybe we rode a comet in after the flood....

:D :D :D :D :D :D

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:55 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
It's just a recent theory I read. I don't care to open this can of worms in this dead thread, do it where it's already began....heck, you have a few choices probably.

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 5:57 pm
by August
Just give us the reference, puhleeeez. Promise we won't bug you after that.

Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 6:02 pm
by AttentionKMartShoppers
http://www.creationscience.com/onlinebook/Comets.html

It's pretty interesting...but since I don't understand some things...I lift an eyebrow at the proposed mechanism for launching these things.

I need more bookmarks.

Hebrew word "Yom"

Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2005 11:08 am
by Yid613
The Hebrew word for day "Yom" (יום) does not have to mean a 24 hour period so I believe the 6 "yom" of Creation were long periods of time and not 24 hours. I am a Torah observant Jew.I also think G-d may have used Evolution for creating because Adam was the first person with a "neshama" or Human soul so He could have had parents that did not have a "neshama". The Hebrew word "bara" which means created from nothing and there was nothing like it before is only used 3 times during Creation. The first is at the creating of the Universe. The next is at day 5 and the third time is at the creating of Adam's "neshama". The "bara" for Adam was just his "neshama" not his body. The other Hebrew words for creating are "Yatzar" which means form and "Asah" which means make. They are used the other times.

Re: Hebrew word "Yom"

Posted: Wed Jul 20, 2005 11:02 am
by j316
Yid613 wrote:The Hebrew word for day "Yom" (יום) does not have to mean a 24 hour period so I believe the 6 "yom" of Creation were long periods of time and not 24 hours. I am a Torah observant Jew.I also think G-d may have used Evolution for creating because Adam was the first person with a "neshama" or Human soul so He could have had parents that did not have a "neshama". The Hebrew word "bara" which means created from nothing and there was nothing like it before is only used 3 times during Creation. The first is at the creating of the Universe. The next is at day 5 and the third time is at the creating of Adam's "neshama". The "bara" for Adam was just his "neshama" not his body. The other Hebrew words for creating are "Yatzar" which means form and "Asah" which means make. They are used the other times.
I find the part about Adam interesting because I have thought for a long time that the story of man's creation, and the flood story, could be explained as pertaining to God's people, not the whole population of earth. I don't feel that it changes it or denigrates it, but it does tie it in with observable history and doesn't require any large leaps of faith to explain.

The concept puts religious history in the realm of religion and scientific history in the realm of science. I think God seperated the two at the start and doesn't mix them very often. Genesis is a history of the soul, not the body.

There is another thread about lifespans, given the fact that for most primitive peoples 40-50 is old then even the post flood 120 years is a heck of an extension.

I don't know that the foregoing is true, but it does offer some food for thought.