Evidence for God from Science

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

K: Existence itself (of anything) is for me the ultimate proof of the necessary being I call God.

Kurieuo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:52 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Existence itself (of anything) is for me the ultimate proof of the necessary being I call God.

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:33 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Alright Kenny, what proof would be enough for you?

Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:12 am

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:33 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Alright Kenny, what proof would be enough for you?

What’s the worse that could happen if God were to address the entire world at once; in an audible voice from the clouds, in a language each of us could understand; to clear up all the misunderstandings everyone has of him?
The military’s would send up F-16’s and various other fighter jets which will confirm it is not a hoax, every radio, news station, and recording device world wide would record the event so no reasonable person could ever deny or forget the fact that it happened, and everyone who wants to know the truth would know the voice from the sky is the true God, even if it isn’t the God they want to be true.
What’s the worse that can happen if God did this?

Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:59 am

Kurieuo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:52 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Existence itself (of anything) is for me the ultimate proof of the necessary being I call God.

If I believed in Santa Clause, and I define Santa as the guy who makes all of those toys kids play with, the very existence of toys would be evidence of Santa to me, but it will not be for you.
If you believe in God and you define God as the one who created everything and all that exists, everything and all that exists will be evidence of God to you; but it will not be for me.

1over137 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:38 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:12 am

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:33 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Alright Kenny, what proof would be enough for you?

What’s the worse that could happen if God were to address the entire world at once; in an audible voice from the clouds, in a language each of us could understand; to clear up all the misunderstandings everyone has of him?
The military’s would send up F-16’s and various other fighter jets which will confirm it is not a hoax, every radio, news station, and recording device world wide would record the event so no reasonable person could ever deny or forget the fact that it happened, and everyone who wants to know the truth would know the voice from the sky is the true God, even if it isn’t the God they want to be true.
What’s the worse that can happen if God did this?

What's the worst that can happen if God did that?
Worst would be when people would crucify him.

Kurieuo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:44 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 6:59 am

Kurieuo wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 3:52 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Existence itself (of anything) is for me the ultimate proof of the necessary being I call God.

If I believed in Santa Clause, and I define Santa as the guy who makes all of those toys kids play with, the very existence of toys would be evidence of Santa to me, but it will not be for you.
If you believe in God and you define God as the one who created everything and all that exists, everything and all that exists will be evidence of God to you; but it will not be for me.

Yes Kenny.

Clearly, you don't understand what the proof is.

1over137 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:35 am Great Kenny,
my advice is: be patient.
This is God's promise:
(Deuteronomy 4:29 NKJV) “But from there you will seek the LORD your God, and you will find Him if you seek Him with all your heart and with all your soul.

(from 1 Chronicles 28:9 NKJV)
“As for you, my son Solomon, know the God of your father, and serve Him with a loyal heart and with a willing mind; for the LORD searches all hearts and understands all the intent of the thoughts. If you seek Him, He will be found by you; ....

Blessed Christmas Kenny.

Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:12 am

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:33 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Alright Kenny, what proof would be enough for you?

What’s the worse that could happen if God were to address the entire world at once; in an audible voice from the clouds, in a language each of us could understand; to clear up all the misunderstandings everyone has of him?
The military’s would send up F-16’s and various other fighter jets which will confirm it is not a hoax, every radio, news station, and recording device world wide would record the event so no reasonable person could ever deny or forget the fact that it happened, and everyone who wants to know the truth would know the voice from the sky is the true God, even if it isn’t the God they want to be true.
What’s the worse that can happen if God did this?

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:27 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 7:12 am

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 5:33 am

Kenny wrote: ↑Thu Dec 20, 2018 9:39 pm

PaulSacramento wrote: ↑Tue Dec 04, 2018 12:10 pm I often ask what proof would be enough for the skeptic to believe in God.
The answer:
None.

I (a skeptic) have been asked that question many times and I always give an answer; but the response to my answer is usually something like “God doesn’t work that way”, "God requires faith", or "how dare you the created insist the creator play by YOUR rules!"

Alright Kenny, what proof would be enough for you?

What’s the worse that could happen if God were to address the entire world at once; in an audible voice from the clouds, in a language each of us could understand; to clear up all the misunderstandings everyone has of him?
The military’s would send up F-16’s and various other fighter jets which will confirm it is not a hoax, every radio, news station, and recording device world wide would record the event so no reasonable person could ever deny or forget the fact that it happened, and everyone who wants to know the truth would know the voice from the sky is the true God, even if it isn’t the God they want to be true.
What’s the worse that can happen if God did this?

Now, are you telling me that IF you heard God's voice ( since the question was addressed to YOU specifically), that YOU would believe it to be God, period?

Ken: If you believe in God and you define God as the one who created everything and all that exists, everything and all that exists will be evidence of God to you; but it will not be for me.

Philip wrote: ↑Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:55 am

Ken: If you believe in God and you define God as the one who created everything and all that exists, everything and all that exists will be evidence of God to you; but it will not be for me.

Then what exactly is it evidence OF? And do you believe there exists a ANY thing without a source?