kateliz wrote:Ya know, ocho, I did a pretty thorough Bible study on the word "rod" that used in Psalms regarding disciplining children. Turns out it does not refer to spanking with a stick! The Bible does not support measures like spanking in the verses people say it does.
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Nice try, but no cigar.
http://www.christian-parents.net/Childr ... ildren.htm
Yet, God's Word still stands as the tried and true way to rear children. This of course includes the mandatory use of parental discipline that includes spanking a child. Listen to this collage of good advice on child rearing in the Bible. We read in,
Proverbs 22:6 (NLT) "Teach your children to choose the right path, and when they are older, they will remain upon it."
Colossians 3:20 (NLT) "You children must always obey your parents, for this is what pleases the Lord."
Ephesians 6:2-3 (NLT) ""Honor your father and mother." This is the first of the Ten Commandments that ends with a promise. 3 And this is the promise: If you honor your father and mother, "you will live a long life, full of blessing.""
Proverbs 29:15 (NLT) "To discipline and reprimand a child produces wisdom, but a mother is disgraced by an undisciplined child."
Proverbs 23:13-14 (NLT) "Don't fail to correct your children. They won't die if you spank them. 14 Physical discipline may well save them from death."
Proverbs 22:15 (NLT) "A youngster's heart is filled with foolishness, but discipline will drive it away."
Proverbs 29:17 (NLT) "Discipline your children, and they will give you happiness and peace of mind."
Proverbs 13:18 (NIV) "He who ignores discipline comes to poverty and shame, but whoever heeds correction is honored."
Proverbs 19:18 (NLT) "Discipline your children while there is hope. If you don't, you will ruin their lives."
Friends, it's time to return to the faithful exercise of loving, corrective parental discipline. By the way, new research challenges the spanking critics who have denied God's Word on the matter. Yes, even Americans as a whole, are coming to see that a return to parental authority and discipline is the right thing to do. In spite of the shrill cry of child abuse, spanking a child is no such thing as some foolish "experts" have tried to tell us. Yes, child abuse is wrong, but spanking is not one of them. A recent poll of more than 1000 Americans surveyed showed that 76% of them said that spanking was an effective form of discipline in their home when they were children [2]. In addition, Americans perceive lack of discipline to be the biggest problem in public education today according to a Gallup poll [3]. Yet critics for two decades have claimed that spanking is abusive and contributes to adult dysfunction. These allegations are now proving to be false and dangerously destructive to a child's growing season of life. Most of the so-called psychological studies proving parental discipline as harmful, now are showing up to be nothing more than "opinion-driven editorials, reviews and commentaries devoid of empirical findings" [4]. Amazingly, God's Word again is vindicated by time and experience.
But don't get me wrong, I have and would again any time physically restrain a child by pinning their arms, legs and head all at once. If a child cannot appropriately control their own limbs, I will do it for them while speaking in a calm voice, telling them that when they stop I will let go. I'm all for severe measures if they're needed; I don't shy from them. But spanking is unreasonable and unbiblical measure that unskilled disciplinarians take for lack of a better one.
Also, I was spanked as a child, and so I'm not ignorant of what goes on in kids' minds about it. It's just not effective in the long-run
http://aabss.org/journal2002/Hwang.htm
Parental permissiveness and laxness is the cause or prompter of such delinquent and aggressive behavior. In fact, children coming from homes with permissive parents are thirteen times more likely to produce delinquent and aggressive behavior than children coming from homes with overly strict and punitive parents.
Among physicians, 59 percent of pediatricians and 70 percent of family physicians support the use of corporal punishment, although approval is greatest when it is used to correct dangerous behavior.
Prodigal Son wrote:
i don't deplore discipline. i deplore corporal punishment. i deplore it because it is immature, ineffective, and wrong. not very confusing.
There might be another reason for it.
Felgar wrote:
Can't stay out of this one anymore... I disagree Kateliz. Spanking is appropriate and effective;.
It is.
hitting your child is something else and is unnacceptable. You are equating the two, and then drawing faulty conclusions as a result of your faulty assumption.
Isn't the first. You should read her posts on gun control.
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