Kurieuo" You make me wonder sometimes Audie, why you're always about Christian issues.
I wonder what you think you are even saying here. I am not "always" much of anything, and as for "Christian issues", what is that even supposed to mean?
The thread is about the supposed "ark" and an event that affected all of life and geography on earth. That a subset of Christians promote this pseudoscience and superstition, have in the past and would again present it
upon the public at large as imposed truth with terrible consequences for not believing, that is a matter of legitimate concern to all. Like me.
Lets take it a step further, that willful ignorance, deliberate intellectual dishonesty and gay embrace of superstition is not really healthy for an advanced industrial economy that wishes to maintain dominance. That goes for OZ and all the western countries who are in the same boat.
There are a lot of intensely rational, very hungry and ambitious people who will be totally unsentimental about pushing you guys aside. They outnumber you, btw.
Shouldn't one ought to be Christian before taking positions on "Christian" issues, or can chicks eat pellets before they become chickens? You work your way forward, not backwards.
Do you say this to the fluddies and gapperites? I know the bible better than most Christians do. Your fs and gs are utterly clueless about science, as you surely have noted, little as you yourself know. They display, tho, no hesitation about presenting that they know more than all the scientists on earth. And, side note, making your entire religion look ridiculous.
Something like Jac's paper on divine simplicity, or questions about the metaphysical underpinnings of the world,
"Metaphysical underpinnings" may underpin "philosophy" but as for the world itself, that is your opinion.
would be better start for you to try bother with. Being as you are, looking at the world through your rather secular lens, there is no point in your even entertaining Scripture. It has no meaning to you, nor should it in your state.
I dont suppose you advised jacjac to read "intro to historical geology"?
Whatever "entertaining" scripture may mean, I've found some of it interesting.
In your state of acceptance, you may well be less qualified to read the bible for what it is than I.
I don't say that to be cruel, is just truth of the matter. Correct me if I'm wrong and you see any merit at all to Scripture
Some of it has merit, as I said. What you said is your opinion, not some truth.
. It's not your Canon, why should you? It doesn't open up to you its secrets, or nurture you in any way, if you even could comprehend what such means
What makes you think you have access to arcane knowledge denied to me?
Or look at H and P dueling over such basic matters. One of them "comprehends" and the other does not? That is where I came in. I dont know which is "right" about sophisticated interpretations of this and that.
I do know that anyone who goes round and round and ends up with a real world wide flood has went off the track, real badly, somewhere.
Perhaps you could try backtracking to see where the systemic error is.
. So why keep picking at it? You may as well be forever picking nits without actually treating the hair roots.
Whatever you might possibly mean. Picking at "it"? Obscurantism is a bit of a vice, dont you think so?
If you have no idea what I'm saying,
Not when you talk about hairs and fleas. I tend to know what people are saying when they dont talk vague metaphors or otherwise indulge in the aforementioned vice.
start with going forward from the beginning in any investigation of God's existence, don't start with some end beliefs of people. Or even this or that religion
If people go thru all that and then end up, kite down drain, what is ther in that to make me want to follow the same sorry path?
You always say you lack time, you need to make time some day because really you're just wasting time here otherwise poking sticks.
If I am "poking sticks' what is anyone else doing here? What is the difference?
Without even one basic Theistic tenet, your opinion on what you feel about this Christian or that Christian being more credible or the like counts for zip.
What makes you think I dont understand your religion? "Even one basic tenet"?
Give me a flipping break.
As for that credibility thing, you cant mean it. You may be off your feed, this whole post suggests it, as did your earlier posts in which you were attacking me on things you fantasized. If one person in ANY debate on ANY topic
included as essential facts that cars fly and Mt Everest is really a hole in the ground, his whole argument will be well, you know. People will laugh.
Im sure the fluddies dont like being laughed at but they are not one whit less
ridiculous.
Just like that kite down the drain. It's like a person judging a beauty contest, only upon announcing who was the fairest of them all it is realised the judge is actually blind
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If you want to play "just like", even a blind man can feel the string till it ends up in the drain, or hear the contestants voices and pick the winner as the only female present.
As you seem to think there was some sort flood that supports the bible story, however remotely, I suppose it touches a nerve to have it mentioned that
there is no physical evidence to support the story. Or that clinging to "flood" as some sort of literal "truth" calls into profound question whether any of the bible or its adherents can reasonably be called credible.
Unless perhaps you take the approach that the stories were based on
something, whatever it may have been, and the story has so morphed over the years that all that is left is something like the Cheshire cat's grin.
