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Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 9:09 am
by RickD
crochet1949 wrote:hugh --
Actually God Didn't create the world just like it is Now -- mistake on my part. There was a world-wide flood that changed the landscape a great deal. Before that the land was relatively flat compared to now with the Grand Canyon, etc. Back in Genesis 7: 19 and 20. "And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered. The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered." vs 11 "In the six hundredth year of Noah's life , in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, on that day all the fountains of the great deep were broken up , and the windows of heaven were opened. "
What evidence do you have of a worldwide flood?
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:45 pm
by crochet1949
RickD
Let's take a look at Genesis 7: 19 - 20 "And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered, The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered."
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:49 pm
by RickD
crochet1949 wrote:RickD
Let's take a look at Genesis 7: 19 - 20 "And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered, The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered."
I asked what
evidence you have for a worldwide flood? We've already established that your interpretation of Genesis, regarding the flood, differs from mine. I'm talking about empirical evidence.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 12:54 pm
by crochet1949
Then you also , apparently, don't accept Biblical verses for evidence of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, either.
However -- will take a moment to see what I can find in Google about the world-wide flood.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:02 pm
by RickD
crochet1949 wrote:Then you also , apparently, don't accept Biblical verses for evidence of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, either.
However -- will take a moment to see what I can find in Google about the world-wide flood.
Here we go.
The old, "if you don't agree with my young earth interpretation, you don't believe in the atonement work of Christ" fallacy.
I accept scripture that talks about the creation account and Noah's flood. I don't accept YOUR INTERPRETATION of those accounts. Neither your interpretation nor mine, is scripture itself.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:12 pm
by abelcainsbrother
crochet1949 wrote:Then you also , apparently, don't accept Biblical verses for evidence of the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus Christ, either.
However -- will take a moment to see what I can find in Google about the world-wide flood.
Don't google and find evidence for a world wide flood from YEC's. Gap Theorists teach a world wide flood too but it is much,much more scientific than the way YEC's have taught a world wide flood. It won't prove it but it makes much more sense scientifically than the way YEC's have taught a world wide flood. No offense but this is one reason so many people doubt a world wide flood. And I think why some came up with a localized flood in order to defend it. It is because Noah's flood is so toxic because of the way YEC's have taught it happened. It matters how you teach it happened.Just some advice.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:13 pm
by crochet1949
Okay --
http://www.unmaskingevoluition.com/18 - flood
A very interesting article
abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great flood-noah's-tim
Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened says Robert Ballard.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:15 pm
by RickD
crochet1949 wrote:Okay --
http://www.unmaskingevoluition.com/18 - flood
A very interesting article
abcnews.go.com/Technology/evidence-suggests-biblical-great flood-noah's-tim
Evidence Noah's Biblical Flood Happened says Robert Ballard.
Linkie no workie.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:18 pm
by crochet1949
RickD.
I think you can read English just as well as I can. That's what Genesis 7 Is -- plain English --- so what's this 'my interpretation vs Your interpretation. The verses say what they Say.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:18 pm
by crochet1949
Give me a minute to try something.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:18 pm
by RickD
Let's try to stick to the topic. This is not The "Gap proselytizing" thread.
Crochet is already trying to understand about evolution. She doesn't need Gap thrown in.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:23 pm
by abelcainsbrother
RickD wrote:Let's try to stick to the topic. This is not The "Gap proselytizing" thread.
Crochet is already trying to understand about evolution. She doesn't need Gap thrown in.
Noah's flood was brought up but there are much better ways to teach a world wide flood happened. That is all.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:25 pm
by RickD
crochet1949 wrote:RickD.
I think you can read English just as well as I can. That's what Genesis 7 Is -- plain English --- so what's this 'my interpretation vs Your interpretation. The verses say what they Say.
Crochet,
That's part of the issue. The original text wasn't written in English. Ancient Hebrew has far less words than our modern English. Some words have multiple
literal meanings. Here's a link from the home site, about why the flood must be local. I'm not trying to convince you to change your belief. I'm just trying to show you the difference in interpretations. And how a different interpretation is still a literal interpretation.
http://www.godandscience.org/apologetic ... flood.html
But now we're getting off topic. If you want to continue talking about this, I can move the relevant posts to a new topic.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:26 pm
by RickD
abelcainsbrother wrote:RickD wrote:Let's try to stick to the topic. This is not The "Gap proselytizing" thread.
Crochet is already trying to understand about evolution. She doesn't need Gap thrown in.
Noah's flood was brought up but there are much better ways to teach a world wide flood happened. That is all.
We're already veering off topic. Let's not make it worse.
Re: How God can create through evolution:
Posted: Wed May 04, 2016 1:32 pm
by crochet1949
I had to type in /// Scientific Evidence for a World Wide Flood
Evidence for a Global Flood
Two very good articles.
I was asked for non-Biblical proof of a global flood. It's There. In plain secular English.