Jac3510 wrote:As a pastor with two daughters, I'm curious to know as well. Everyone here knows I can be sharp (or blunt, whichever analogy you prefer). But insulting people's kids . . . let's just say I really hope "and ps, i apologize for my manner" was with reference to the smear of the kids in question. :-/
ok look, you are characterizing me as having insulted someone, when all i did was mention a cliche` ok, backed up by powerful evidence, millions of hits when i search it, that has nothing whatsoever to do with any individual person, your daughters included. it was not about them. it was about "let's look at the fruit of that, broadly speaking." the difference in raising a kid right, v demanding compliance to a law, your law, or not letting go when the time is right, or however you want to put it.
laws are inadequate, and insufficient for salvation, because gods don't like to be told something they can't do, which they prolly weren't even interested in doing, until they were told they couldn't do it, then of course they have to do it to find out why, which is why we exist in the first place, to learn how to do it wrong. Where there is no sin, there is no Grace, loosely speaking. It's the baby's hand in the fire all over again--which i don't know if i've dragged that one out yet, but you've had kids, so you prolly remember the first kid you had, their first experience with fire, as a toddler or whatever, you telling them "
don't be putting your hand in there, you will get burned," thinking you were helping that little kid out, huh? you were just gonna save them some grief, because you love them, and have a better idea, lol. Of course, you might even say the same thing to the third kid, but by then you have learned God's way a little better, and you just make sure you have the burn cream or whatever ready, which actually
no cream is God's way, and you are just now setting the kid up for
Pharmacopoeia, to go with his Snake on a Pole--little medical humor/hint there, for ya--but whaddya gonnado, you are a god, you'll figure it out. You will reap what you sow. The best gift, ever.
so i hope you see that there are no "kids in question," ok. point to the kids in question. i did not point to any kids. i pointed to 33 million hits on google, or whatever, and a pastor with daughters is naturally going to
hear something differently there than a single guy with no kids even meant, which does not make the reflection any less true, does it? Preacher's daughters and wives still have reputations, if they deserve them--and if they don't, they don't, i mean, nobody tries to make time with girls who are lined up right, are they, why waste your time, when there are so many others; those are the kind of girls you end up wanting to marry, not make time with--if the preacher manifests that kind of fruit, there is no way that he is going to not reap what he sows, and you can see it as a bad thing, if you want, characterize it as being denigrating, if you like, but i sure don't mean that. See what you will see.
