Evidence for God from Science

1over137 wrote:BigHamster, why are you not using your old account?

bbyrd009 wrote:Hi, i'm seeking after Christ, Mark Whittington, age 55, Heretic, single, creation~centered, not sure what "creation position" is asking, i doubt "fetal" is the correct response, so i'll just say that i suspect Adam and Eve had navels, for now, and i'll fill in the bio stuff today. Started Southern Baptist, through Charismatic, Free-will, Messianic, Prosperity, OP, now considered a Heretic by pretty much all of those guys. i hope. Ntmy all

bbyrd009 wrote:Hi, i'm seeking after Christ, Mark Whittington, age 55, Heretic, single, creation~centered, not sure what "creation position" is asking, i doubt "fetal" is the correct response, so i'll just say that i suspect Adam and Eve had navels, for now, and i'll fill in the bio stuff today. Started Southern Baptist, through Charismatic, Free-will, Messianic, Prosperity, OP, now considered a Heretic by pretty much all of those guys. i hope. Ntmy all

Byblos wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:Hi, i'm seeking after Christ, Mark Whittington, age 55, Heretic, single, creation~centered, not sure what "creation position" is asking, i doubt "fetal" is the correct response, so i'll just say that i suspect Adam and Eve had navels, for now, and i'll fill in the bio stuff today. Started Southern Baptist, through Charismatic, Free-will, Messianic, Prosperity, OP, now considered a Heretic by pretty much all of those guys. i hope. Ntmy all

Take solace my friend, I'm Catholic so even you might consider me a heretic.

Byblos wrote: Welcome to the forum.

bbyrd009 wrote:ok, but lest that be misinterpreted, after being raised to believe that Catholics were satanic, i have since started volunteering at Catholic Charities, and i love Catholics, ok? If one is in dire straits, and seeks relief, they are almost surely going to be shortly talking to some Catholics, who are not going to even be asking whether that one is a believer or not. they help Wiccans, or anyone else who asks!

Catholic charities needs to do a better job, vetting their volunteers.

RickD wrote:

bbyrd009 wrote:ok, but lest that be misinterpreted, after being raised to believe that Catholics were satanic, i have since started volunteering at Catholic Charities, and i love Catholics, ok? If one is in dire straits, and seeks relief, they are almost surely going to be shortly talking to some Catholics, who are not going to even be asking whether that one is a believer or not. they help Wiccans, or anyone else who asks!

Catholic charities needs to do a better job, vetting their volunteers.

But see both the passages which I highlighted in blue actually have a word that is rendered shepherd elsewhere.

Rev 2:27 και ποιμανει [G4165] αυτους εν ραβδω σιδηρα ως τα σκευη τα κεραμικα συντριβεται (2-28) ως καγω ειληφα παρα του πατρος μου

Rev 12:5 και ετεκεν υιον αρσεν ος μελλει ποιμαινειν [G4165] παντα τα εθνη εν ραβδω σιδηρα και ηρπασθη το τεκνον αυτης προς τον θεον και προς τον θρονον αυτου

G4165 ποιμαίνω poimaino (poi-mai'-nō) v.
1. to tend as a shepherd of.
2. (by implication) to feed sheep.
3. (figuratively) to supervise, direct, and feed.
[from G4166]
KJV: feed (cattle), rule
Root(s): G4166

Your body-temple is "the Land", as we have said in many other places and in many other ways, and in the outer bounds-commons-profane area of your land dwell all sorts of creatures, even wild beasts, and nations and allegorical "heathen", it is all an allegory for tending or shepherding your own land and the permanent dwellers upon your earth, (and "members" of your household as Paul also puts it, and in Romans 7, where he says that no good thing dwells in the flesh which is the outer bounds-commons-profane area of your body-temple). You are the porter of the door of your house while the House Master is as if away in a far journey, (Mark 13:34-37), you are like the second-in-charge shepherd who has been put in charge while the Master of the house is away. In the days of the heavens upon the earth, (Deut 11:21), when the Son of man comes, (the full Testimony of Yeshua and the mysteries thereof revealed), you will not just "rule" the various territories of the land in your charge but you will shepherd the "nations" roundabout in all the dominion of your land. It is all supernal allegorical teaching, (pure asceticism, imo, because it concerns teachings for taking control over the body-temple which you have been set over, which is no more your own when you enter into Yeshua faithfulness through the doctrine, parables, sayings, and teachings of Messiah).

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RickD wrote:

Storyteller wrote:

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Omg, were you away?

Storyteller wrote:

RickD wrote:

Storyteller wrote:

I'm back

Omg, were you away?

I only went to make you a sammich!