Evidence for God from Science

mlynchrules wrote:So I don't actually feel like jumping in on other people's conversations, so I'm just going to start my own thread of comments and see where we go. Apologies if I bring up points brought up by others in the previous 13 pages. I understand that in Christianity, homosexuality is an extremely touchy subject and I want to do my best to not offend anyone, but I would love my opinion to be heard by a large group of respectable people.

I am a Christian. I was born, raised, and brought up as a faithful Christian who believes that Jesus Christ died for the world's sins on the cross. I have accepted Jesus as my personal saviour and I have a very strong love for Him. I would do anything if I believed it to be His will. This being said, I cannot see Jesus as being hateful towards homosexual people. I am of the strong belief that Jesus/God loves all of His creations and would not create something that he does not love. Why, then, would God create people who are homosexual if He hates homosexuality? I think that God loves everyone equally and has a special place in Heaven for all of his people.

I know that the general argument against homosexuality is the fact that homosexual relationships are "unnatural". I understand where this argument may come from, but there are several instances of homosexuality found right in nature. You could even argue that not being open to thought of other sexuality is actually unnatural, because nature is constantly changing and doesn't necessarily get stuck in one path.

I hope that you all have a wonderful day and feel free to respond to my post. I would love to hear your responses!

Kurieuo wrote:As a Naturalist one should surely believe that homosexuality is wrong -- because it goes against survival of the fittest in that ones gene is not propogated. Oh, that's right. Right and wrong do not exist without God, only pleasure and pain. If it feels good do it. We own our own lives.

I don't know why non-Christians even raise this topic with Christians. The two worldviews talk entirely different languages. And this is the problem with any dialogue on this or any other moral topic.

Jayscience wrote:[flash=][flash=]We are not to judge anothers eternal destiny for that is Gods job. But, the Bible does call us to Judge, Discern, and decide what actions, behaviour, and talk from Others are right from wrong / moral from immoral in light of Scripture. This is why the Bible says for us to go to Another who is heading down the wrong path in life to caution the Person and to help them see the right way to travel . In fact, up until circa 1962 , the adage of 'I am my Brothers Keeper' was something that was fully displayed, but nowadays in society and sadly in our churches, the mantra is : 'You can do whatever you feel like doing just so long as it doesnt affect Me...and ill be willfully tolerant to it (even if it is clearly wrong, immoral, or destructive to yourself and Others) ' . Its nothing short of Apathy . Hence, the huge cultural change in values which enhances moral degradation in the U.S.[/quote[/flash][/flash]]


Sure I can see trying to guide a friend if we are asked but giving advise where its not asked for rarely works. We can try to live by example but I don't think shunning someone for there life style is what Jesus would want from us. Sexual prefferance isn't the same as most wrong paths in life it is far more involed then hanging around with the wrong crowd or drinking to much.

I can tell you this I like women and there is knowthing you could ever say to me to change that about me. So what would make you think you could talk a gay man for example into being attracted to women? That would be living a lie, that is a sin as well.