With all due respect please tell me if im wrong somewhere and correct me if i am. future thank youuu!!!
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That sounds about right because the bible points these things out as you so stated.CeT-To wrote:guys whatever happened to sheol and hades? the way i know it is the lake of fire or "hell" doesnt exist yet this is because the lake of fire is only to be there on the Day of the Lord for the eternal punishment. Now remember how Jesus before he died on the cross said to the criminal next to Him that he will go to paradise? yes well thats in sheol because there are 2 parts in sheol/hades which is paradise and the other place which is for those who were not righteous enough to be there ( this i think is confirmed in the tale that jesus tells us about lazurus and the rich man) another name for paradise which is in sheol is abraham's bosom. Remember that when Jesus told the criminal next to Him that TODAY you will be in paradise with me, Jesus had to go to sheol/hades for 2 days to proclaim the good news to those in paradise and deliver them to heaven because on the 3rd day he ressurected into the glorified body back on earth. That is why the dead ( people in sheol waiting for hell) will be ressurected as it says in the scriptures " Death and Hades were emptied of the dead that were in them; and everyone was judged as his deeds deserved. Then Death and Hades were hurled into the burning lake. The burning lake was the second death." (Rev. 20:13-14). So right now sheol is just used as a sort of waiting room for the burning lake because there is no paradise in it anymore, the people who believe in Jesus go straight to heaven.
With all due respect please tell me if im wrong somewhere and correct me if i am. future thank youuu!!!
God bless you all
You are on track as the bible is pretty plain regarding these matters - even the timeline is well described. I think this quote from Scofield's may help understand what the Lake of Fire is and when it all comes about even better ...CeT-To wrote:ummm do you mean what do i think it will be like? or what do i think about the lake of fire?
well for the first one haha i have no idea to be honest because its probably beyond my imagination on how horrible it will be :S and well for the last one i just know the lake of fire will be flipped out when everything comes to an end, although i am a bit confused on one part which is ; will the lake of fire be brought out after the 1000 year reign of the Lord? because im pretty sure that after the 1000 years are over satan will be let loose for a little while and then non believers will be ressurected (from sheol/hades) and be judged ( im not sure how the they are going to be judged if anyone could make that clear for me) and the lake of fire will be finally brought out for the first time and be used for eternal punishment(i think).
haha i seem a bit shaky on what i know but i guess that why im here on this site. Could you please help me on the parts that faulty or untrue? i would gladly appreciated
-Scofield's Commentary on Rev 21:8
second death
Second death, Summary:
"The second death" and the "lake of fire" are identical terms (Rev 20:14) and are used of the eternal state of the wicked. It is "second" relative to the preceding physical death of the wicked in unbelief and rejection of God; their eternal state is one of eternal "death" (that is, separation from God) in sins (John 8:21); (John 8:24). That the second death is not annihilation is shown by a comparison of (Rev 19:20); (Rev 20:10).
After one thousand years in the lake of fire, the Beast and False Prophet are still there, undestroyed. The words "forever and forever" ("to the ages of the ages") are used in (Heb 1:8) for the duration of the throne of God, eternal in the sense of unending.
There is this principle of truth that the bible has that applies here found in:CeT-To wrote:oh thanx its good that im on the right track, ive been meaning to understand the resurrection of the unrightous at the end times. Ahh i finally understand on what they are going to be judged mmhmm. So i have another question im a tad skeptical on these Near Death Experiences about hell and everythingsince ive read some of them where they are very contradictory, i think i remember reading one where this woman went to heaven and there was this angel and it laughed when she asked it about sin and said that it was nothing, the angel was saying that satan wasnt even around anymore. LOL which actually sounds like satan to me
, i mean maybe lucifer can actually trick you through near death experiences which is actually an extremely powerful method of deceiving because we all know lucifer isnt some red guy with pitch forks, horns and a devil tail
, he is the most beautiful angel ( looks wise haha) and thats a great asset of his to decieve
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I would say some are, but the recipients did not stay mortally dead long enough to actually discern their true location because they were resuscitated back to life before they realized what was going on.CeT-To wrote:So do you have any idea on how these NDEs are true? (sorry for double post i left out the actual question)
CeT-To wrote:Excellent explaination B.W. i finally understand now![]()
And yes i have praised God for the understanding i have in matters such as 2 Corinthians 11:14, 15![]()
1 Corinthians 6:3 Wow i didnt know we are going to judge angels, is this because we are going to share christ's role in the end times? since (i think) we are going to be one with Jesus when we go to heaven as he is the Book of Life. Am i right?
-1 Co 6:3
Shall judge angels - All the angels that shall be judged, good or bad. Probably the reference is to fallen angels, as there is no account that holy angels will then undergo a trial. The sense is, “Christians will be qualified to see the justice of even the sentence which is pronounced on fallen angels. They will be able so to embrace and comprehend the nature of law, and the interests of justice, as to see the propriety of their condemnation. And if they can so far enter into these important and eternal relations, assuredly they ought to be regarded as qualified to discern the nature of justice 'among men,' and to settle the unimportant differences which may arise in the church.” Or, perhaps, this may mean that the saints shall in the future world be raised to a rank in some respects more elevated than even the angels in heaven. (Prof. Stuart.) In what respects they will be thus elevated, if this is the true interpretation, can be only a matter of conjecture. It may be supposed that it will be because they have been favored by being interested in the plan of salvation - a plan that has done so much to honor God; and that “to have been” thus saved by the “immediate and painful” intervention of the Son of God, will be a higher honor than all the privileges which beings can enjoy who are innocent themselves.
Before Christ came Abraham Believed God. Believed translated here comes from the Greek workd Faith and used in Romans 4:3 in verb from Faith and would look like this Faithed. Therefore those whom were in Paradise were those who Faithed in God. That is the principle being set forth in Romans 4:3 that only those that Faithed in God were accounted righteous before God and entered paradise. Such people Faithed in the correct, true, and only God so anyone not Faithing in the ture God but another false God or system would not be in Paradise - all roads do not lead to heaven but rather judgment.CeT-To wrote:mmmhmm sounds about right. Another question i have is how does God distinguish between who goes in which part of Sheol, i mean i can see why people like Abraham, Isaac and Jacob went to Paradise because they did what God asked of them but what about the people who died before them? or after them before the Mosiac law arose?? How were they distinguished between righteous and unrighteous to be in paradise or not if there was no law to distinguish them in?![]()
thanx B.W. by the way for anwering the other questions
God bless you
Well, what does te bible say about this? Genesis 4:6 - God spoke with Cain and then in Genesis 4:26 it states that at the time of Enosh that men began to call upon (or live after) the name of the Lord...CeT-To wrote:so you think there were others like Abraham who God spoke to at that time or before? but i mean was everyone given that same chance as Abraham was?
Hey B.W.,B. W. wrote:Hi CeT-To,
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