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Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:41 pm
by Kurieuo
Kenny wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:It is interesting that thoughts and ideas can inspire mere atoms and molecules.
I agree! But only when those thoughts and ideas originate from those atoms and molecules.

Ken
So two big questions for you here.

With a physical theory of life can it be explained why it was likely that organisms of the kind that have consciousness would arise?
And do you know of a theory that governs the emergence of consciousness as being inseparable from physical evolutionary processes via natural selection?

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 9:54 pm
by abelcainsbrother
LOL!

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 5:17 am
by Kenny
Kurieuo wrote:
Kenny wrote:
Kurieuo wrote:It is interesting that thoughts and ideas can inspire mere atoms and molecules.
I agree! But only when those thoughts and ideas originate from those atoms and molecules.

Ken
So two big questions for you here.

With a physical theory of life can it be explained why it was likely that organisms of the kind that have consciousness would arise?
And do you know of a theory that governs the emergence of consciousness as being inseparable from physical evolutionary processes via natural selection?
You are speaking waaaay past my pay grade my friend! Sounds like you need to talk to a professional.

Ken

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 8:50 pm
by Yrreg
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Logic tells us that absolute truth can be known, but can we know if we have absolute truth?

I don't know about you but I am not 100% sure of anything, there just doesn't seem to be any certainty in life.

[...]

You say:

1. Logic tells us that absolute truth can be known,

2. but can we know if we have absolute truth?

3. I don't know about you but

4. I am not 100% sure of anything,

5. there just doesn't seem to be any certainty in life.


Do you notice that you have shifted from absolute truth to 100% surety or certainty?

Is absolute truth and 100% certainty for you identical?

I want you to think on facts and logic, and tell me which do you see to be truth and which to be certainty with the two following statements:

A. 2 plus 2 equals 4.

B. We have a nose in our face.

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:15 am
by Storyteller
Yrreg wrote:
Danieltwotwenty wrote:Logic tells us that absolute truth can be known, but can we know if we have absolute truth?

I don't know about you but I am not 100% sure of anything, there just doesn't seem to be any certainty in life.

[...]

You say:

1. Logic tells us that absolute truth can be known,

2. but can we know if we have absolute truth?

3. I don't know about you but

4. I am not 100% sure of anything,

5. there just doesn't seem to be any certainty in life.


Do you notice that you have shifted from absolute truth to 100% surety or certainty?

Is absolute truth and 100% certainty for you identical?

I want you to think on facts and logic, and tell me which do you see to be truth and which to be certainty with the two following statements:

A. 2 plus 2 equals 4.

B. We have a nose in our face.
2 plus 2 is truth

We have a nose on our face may not be either truth or certainty or could be both.

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:22 pm
by PaulSacramento
Some say there are no absolutes.
Of course saying that IS an absolute, so...

The reality is that IF there are no absolutes then everything is subjective and IF that is the case then anything is permissible.

Since NO ONE believes that EVERYTHING is permissible then there is an absolute.

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:56 pm
by Storyteller
A bit like saying it's impossible to say that anything is impossible because that in itself is impossible?

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:43 pm
by RickD
Storyteller wrote:A bit like saying it's impossible to say that anything is impossible because that in itself is impossible?
y#-o
You been drinkin again? :cheers:

Re: How can we know if we know we have absolute truth?

Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:51 pm
by Storyteller
No I am practicing abstinence :mrgreen: