Evidence for God from Science

Hello to all

My Name is Ron
Great to have come across your board. It was a pleasant surprise to find a bulletin board! I will be hanging out at times here.

I’am not new to faith in Jesus Christ, a believer for more than 40+ years. I came across your site and board while studying the death of Our Lord.
In particular “on the physical death of Jesus” from a YouTube video. I’m interested a pdf document from your website by JAMA (
The (Journal of the American Medical Association 1986) The link for the pdf appears to be down possibly due to the website’s construction.
The Link http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/deathjesus.pdf
I would appreciate your help In obtaining that pdf.

Yours in Christ
RS

slackrl wrote: ↑Wed Apr 23, 2025 1:56 pm Hello to all

My Name is Ron
Great to have come across your board. It was a pleasant surprise to find a bulletin board! I will be hanging out at times here.

I’am not new to faith in Jesus Christ, a believer for more than 40+ years. I came across your site and board while studying the death of Our Lord.
In particular “on the physical death of Jesus” from a YouTube video. I’m interested a pdf document from your website by JAMA (
The (Journal of the American Medical Association 1986) The link for the pdf appears to be down possibly due to the website’s construction.
The Link http://www.godandscience.org/apologetics/deathjesus.pdf
I would appreciate your help In obtaining that pdf.

Yours in Christ
RS

Ron, welcome to the forum!

For some reason, some of the original owner's posted documents did not survive the chaos of changing over to a new host. There are plans to restore them.

However, this is what I found that may be what you are referring to:



March 21, 1986

JAMA. 1986;255(11):1455-1463. doi:10.1001/jama.1986.03370110077025

Full Text

Jesus of Nazareth underwent Jewish and Roman trials, was flogged, and was sentenced to death by crucifixion. The scourging produced deep stripelike lacerations and appreciable blood loss, and it probably set the stage for hypovolemic shock, as evidenced by the fact that Jesus was too weakened to carry the crossbar (patibulum) to Golgotha. At the site of crucifixion, his wrists were nailed to the patibulum and, after the patibulum was lifted onto the upright post (stipes), his feet were nailed to the stipes. The major pathophysiologic effect of crucifixion was an interference with normal respirations. Accordingly, death resulted primarily from hypovolemic shock and exhaustion asphyxia. Jesus' death was ensured by the thrust of a soldier's spear into his side. Modern medical interpretation of the historical evidence indicates that Jesus was dead when taken down from the cross.

Thanks Phillip
For reply welcome
Will keep searching the pdf did come with illustrations

Yours in Christ
RS