Evidence for God from Science

Byblos wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 1:26 pm

edwardmurphy wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:43 pm

Byblos wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 11:41 amAnd it's becoming increasingly clear that the Constitution, the rule of law, and democracy itself doesn't mean a thing to the democrats or to you. You're not a liberal, you're a radical left wing marxist.

"Radical left wing Marxist" is redundant. Any Marxist is obviously left wing, and any American Marxist is obviously well outside the mainstream.

Also, you think I'm a Marxist...?

Dude, invest in a dictionary.

Dude, invest in some sarcastic humor.

Rick, you have failed Ed miserably by not imparting some of your wisdom of sarcasm upon him. Poor guy takes himself way too seriously.

Leftists have no sense of humor.

RickD wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 12:06 pm

Byblos wrote to Ed:
You and Abe are two sides of the same coin.

That's exactly what I've been saying!!!!

Ed has gone so far left on the circle, that he's almost at ACB's far right!

Power back to the people is what we're about.If that is far right? Then I am far right. But to me it is just getting back to actually following the Constitution that the left has ignored for far too long.In order for this to happen the swamp in DC must be drained though and it is a fight for it to happen as the left is not just going to lay down and give up.This is what Q is all about "Power back to the People" and if Q was a larp,fake,etc? It is still a good cause to be apart of after being dominated by liberalism for decades.In order to have real change we must trust somebody and be willing to see it through to the end whatever may come. But we will not have change with going back to the status-quo which is what the powers that be - desire. Status-quo is not and has not been good for God ,America, and Country.

RickD wrote: ↑Fri Nov 08, 2019 4:53 am

ACB wrote:
...and real evidence of pedophilia...

I haven't seen a single shred of evidence of pedophilia.

In fact, I haven't seen a single shred of evidence that you even know what pedophilia is.

You have'nt heard of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein?
Here are some links to help inform you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lfwkTsJGYA

And here is a twitter link that shows Q posts having to do with Epstein.What you need to understand is that there are those in the alt-right who have been trying to redpill folks about Jeffrey Epstein.This is a very controversial issue though and despite the best of efforts to try to wake people up about Pedophile sex rings and Satanic rituals,it has been met with mostly rejection and the ol' "conspiracy theory" phrase. But it is one of the things that is going to be used to drain the swamp as those involved are exposed. I'll admit that this is so controversial of a subject that I shied away from even bringing it up much as I've known about Alex Jones trying to expose this stuff for years.But it was not until Q brought it up that I got more bold to bring it up.Here check out the Q posts concerning Jeffrey Epstein,what happens,those involved,etc and how it is going to be exposed.This person has taken the time to go back and find the Q posts concerning Epstein and everything Q revealed to us about him and those involved.Please take the time to go through this Twitter feed and research it out yourself.

edwardmurphy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:42 am

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmAll these "investigations" are a gross abuse of discretion and if that point has escaped you then I don't know what else to say.

Umm...okay?

None of that's true, which you'd know if you were to pull your head out of your backside, wipe your glasses clean, and set to reading the Constitution, the relevant Federal law, and the primary source documents from the hearings, but I have no hope of ever convincing you of that and I don't see you putting in the work if it will challenge your narrative. And I assure you, it will.

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmEdward - you can create a new Constitution where you can criminalize free speech, the right to bear arms, quarter for soldiers, taxes, police marriage and family, unlimited 3rd world immigration, and all the other Un-American hell that is coming soon anywhere.

This just insane ranting. I don't believe any of that, and neither does the typical liberal or any mainstream politician I've ever heard of. You're literally babbling hate.

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmI am in Las Vegas again and the area surrounding the strip feels like a crime riddled 3rd world area. There is literally the smell of sewage from broken sewer pipes wafting in the air due to the new cheap labor hired to handle utilities as hordes of people from CA fleeto NV turning it Blue. You have never seen so many CA license plates outside of CA ever.

Sorry?

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmWhat is going on with Trump is a witch hunt. These people have overplayed their hand. They have proved this government is controlled by a tiny camoflauged un-elected minority who use the laws that they wrote to maintain power. When the FBI CIA NSA directors are grossly abusing power to get rid of Trump which is uncalled for in the first place - and they STILL cannot find anything.

You've been listening to pundits rather than reading primary documents. That's bad practice.

Edward,

The witch-hunt against Trump started BEFORE the elections and has continued until now. Why does this point escape you?

ACB wrote:
You have'nt heard of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein?

What I've heard, is you and others calling Epstein a pedophile.

And again, I've seen no evidence that he was a pedophile.

And again, I don't think that you even understand what a pedophile is.

Let me help you, since you're obviously not getting it.

By definition, a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

Prebubescent is the key word, which means before reaching puberty.

I've seen absolutely no evidence that Epstein had any sexual interest, nor sexual contact, with any prepubescent children.

Do you understand the distinction now?

Evidence showed that he was a man who liked teenage girls. Not prepubescent girls. Being sexually attracted to a 17 year old, is not the same as being sexually attracted to an 8 year old.

And before someone assumes I'm condoning what he did, I'm not.

I'm just trying to be accurate.

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

So, unless there's evidence that Epstein was attracted to prepubescent children, had sex with prepubescent children, or was guilty of sex trafficking prepubescent children, can you stop calling him a pedophile?

It's interesting what former UN Ambassador Nicki Haley said in a recent CBS interview: ""You're going to impeach a president for asking for a favor that didn't happen and -- and giving money and it wasn't withheld?" Haley told CBS News anchor Norah O'Donnell. "I don't know what you would impeach him on. And look, Norah, impeachment is, like, the death penalty for a public official."

Philip wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:22 am It's interesting what former UN Ambassador Nicki Haley said in a recent CBS interview: ""You're going to impeach a president for asking for a favor that didn't happen and -- and giving money and it wasn't withheld?" Haley told CBS News anchor Norah O'Donnell. "I don't know what you would impeach him on. And look, Norah, impeachment is, like, the death penalty for a public official."

Eliciting foreign interference in an American election is illegal.
Withholding foreign aid to entice illegal foreign interference in an American election is bribery.
According to the US Constitution, bribery is an impeachable offense.

DBowling wrote:
Withholding foreign aid to entice illegal foreign interference in an American election is bribery.

Technically, wouldn't that be extortion, not bribery?

And further, wouldn't it be ironic, if Trump got impeached, when he promised to drain the swamp?

RickD wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:40 am

DBowling wrote:
Withholding foreign aid to entice illegal foreign interference in an American election is bribery.

Technically, wouldn't that be extortion, not bribery?

I think both extortion and bribery are in play here.

You are correct.
Withholding the aid could qualify as extortion.
Making the resumption of the aid dependent on illegal interference in an American election qualifies as bribery.

And further, wouldn't it be ironic, if Trump got impeached, when he promised to drain the swamp?

Trump promising to drain the swamp is the definition of ironic.

DBowling wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 9:44 am

Philip wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 7:22 am It's interesting what former UN Ambassador Nicki Haley said in a recent CBS interview: ""You're going to impeach a president for asking for a favor that didn't happen and -- and giving money and it wasn't withheld?" Haley told CBS News anchor Norah O'Donnell. "I don't know what you would impeach him on. And look, Norah, impeachment is, like, the death penalty for a public official."

Eliciting foreign interference in an American election is illegal.
Withholding foreign aid to entice illegal foreign interference in an American election is bribery.
According to the US Constitution, bribery is an impeachable offense.

Well first off Trump was not even accused of this,He was accused of extorting Ukraine in the phone call which has been shown to be a lie now.The Democrats are calling in whistleblwers into their closed doors impeachment inquiry claiming Trump said things in the phone call we know he did not say. So this is a non-sequiter.It is clear from the conversation in the phone call Trump did not withhold foreign aid and did not need to because the Ukraine President ran on and won on draining the swamp in Ukraine like Trump did when he ran for President and they like each other. However what is being called with holding foreign aid has nothing to even do with foreign aid but planes Ukraine was buying from the US.It was not foreign aid,it was a sell. So no crime. You should know better to believe the MSM.

RickD wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 4:53 am

ACB wrote:
You have'nt heard of pedophile Jeffrey Epstein?

What I've heard, is you and others calling Epstein a pedophile.

And again, I've seen no evidence that he was a pedophile.

And again, I don't think that you even understand what a pedophile is.

Let me help you, since you're obviously not getting it.

By definition, a pedophile is someone who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children.

Prebubescent is the key word, which means before reaching puberty.

I've seen absolutely no evidence that Epstein had any sexual interest, nor sexual contact, with any prepubescent children.

Do you understand the distinction now?

Evidence showed that he was a man who liked teenage girls. Not prepubescent girls. Being sexually attracted to a 17 year old, is not the same as being sexually attracted to an 8 year old.

And before someone assumes I'm condoning what he did, I'm not.

I'm just trying to be accurate.

https://simple.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia

So, unless there's evidence that Epstein was attracted to prepubescent children, had sex with prepubescent children, or was guilty of sex trafficking prepubescent children, can you stop calling him a pedophile?

Why would you think I don't know what a pedophile is involving children? Well where are you getting your info about Jeffrey Epstein from? Because the people in the alt-right have been trying to expose pedophile sex rings and Jeffrey Epstein and NXIVM and it is even in the MSM now too,except they cover for them by not reporting all of the facts about it just like where ABC spiked the story about Epstein I gave you several links too. We now have evidence the MSM covers for these pedophiles.

I gave you a twitter link to go through and Q reveals how children are involved but even more shocking stuff. There are those who have investigated this thoroughly out there that have been trying to expose this stuff to no avail pretty much,except for those of us who know about it.And yet as they predicted because of Q it is slowly being exposed for all to see.Now perhaps you don't believe Q where children are involved but even the MSM reported back when Epstein was arrested that there were investigations going on on the island and they found the remains of baby parts in the water around the island. I remember I caught some flack from Philip by calling Democrats involved sick and evil and yet he will understand why eventually.

But with the MSM covering for these people it makes it very hard to convince others about this and expose it. For some reason the MSM is seen as the default for truthful news and info to many when it is the total opposite. I think that sometimes I've not done a good enough job explaining why I rely on alt-right news sources for all of my news and do not even watch any of the MSM anymore for news and info. I occasionally will watch Fox News to see if they are reporting stuff I know about yet,but it is difficult because even if I watch Hannity,which I know you think he is up Trump's rear,yet Hannity can be a let down for me because of the news he's not able to report working at Fox News. He does a good job as far as what he can report but he leaves out a lot more than he could report. Fox New is seen as controlled opposition by many in the alt-right because in some instances they are just as bad as the liberal MSM because of not what they report that needs to be reported ,but is'nt. It is not just the fake news that is the problem but the stuff not reported that is a big problem.

Also I've never endorsed all of the alt-right media,but it may seem that I have because of defending them in some cases but even when it comes to the alt-right I have had to find the ones I trust and like the best and have shunned some and there are even fake alt-righters out there that pose as the alt-right but intentionally put out bad info to try to male the alt-right look bad. The ones I rely on are trustworthy.

ABC bosses in PANIC MODE after Amy Robach's hot mic moment implicates them all. So now we have both the MSM and people in the alt-right claiming Jeffrey Epstein is a pedophile,ran a pedophile sex ring and used it to blackmail,exactly what we have been saying.Those in the alt-right have been trying to expose this about how there is video,pictures,flight logs,etc that they have as proof.Jeffrey Epstein had camera's all over his island and in the rooms and caught it all on tape in order to blackmail people. You who doubted this can no longer call this a conspiracy theory.What is shocking the most about all of this that sill has not come out yet but how there were satanic style rituals involving children on the island too.This pedophile sex ring stuff is sick and evil enough but this even involves satanic child sacrificing to molok too on the Epstein Island and not just pedophilia. As that temple on Epstein's Island is not just for looks,it is a real temple where children are sacrificed to Satan.And those who are involved do these things voluntarily in order to be apart of this for more powerful positions in government,movie roles,more stardom,etc.It is selling your soul to the Devil literally.Now we already brought up how Bill Clinton's name was found on Epstein's flight logs 26 times and we mentioned a picture of Bill Clinton on one of Epstein's Island in a swimming pool with other scumbags and Q revealed it is Hillary is the one who took the picture.So we have the alt-right saying this stuff but now Amy Robach of ABC News saying it also.Eventually you are going to see the flight logs,videos,pictures and evidence that implicates all of those involved.And we know from Q that Jeff Sessions was the one who got this investigation started before he left and he took one for the team,but will be a hero someday.He already is to us who know about it.

ABC Bosses In Panic Mode After Amy Robach's Hot Mic Moment Implicates Them All.
https://youtu.be/pJO_AVczebY

Blessed wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 3:57 am

edwardmurphy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2019 9:42 am

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmAll these "investigations" are a gross abuse of discretion and if that point has escaped you then I don't know what else to say.

Umm...okay?

None of that's true, which you'd know if you were to pull your head out of your backside, wipe your glasses clean, and set to reading the Constitution, the relevant Federal law, and the primary source documents from the hearings, but I have no hope of ever convincing you of that and I don't see you putting in the work if it will challenge your narrative. And I assure you, it will.

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmEdward - you can create a new Constitution where you can criminalize free speech, the right to bear arms, quarter for soldiers, taxes, police marriage and family, unlimited 3rd world immigration, and all the other Un-American hell that is coming soon anywhere.

This just insane ranting. I don't believe any of that, and neither does the typical liberal or any mainstream politician I've ever heard of. You're literally babbling hate.

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmI am in Las Vegas again and the area surrounding the strip feels like a crime riddled 3rd world area. There is literally the smell of sewage from broken sewer pipes wafting in the air due to the new cheap labor hired to handle utilities as hordes of people from CA fleeto NV turning it Blue. You have never seen so many CA license plates outside of CA ever.

Sorry?

Blessed wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:05 pmWhat is going on with Trump is a witch hunt. These people have overplayed their hand. They have proved this government is controlled by a tiny camoflauged un-elected minority who use the laws that they wrote to maintain power. When the FBI CIA NSA directors are grossly abusing power to get rid of Trump which is uncalled for in the first place - and they STILL cannot find anything.

You've been listening to pundits rather than reading primary documents. That's bad practice.

Edward,

The witch-hunt against Trump started BEFORE the elections and has continued until now. Why does this point escape you?

I think he thinks the right told lies about Obama and so it is justified but I would not stand for a conservative using slander in order to win politically because we don't have to do that,the left does it and could not even exist without slander. The left gets mad when the right tells the truth and exposes the left and they see it just as bad as lying like they do. But the right has principles that they adhere to.I mean we can't control what all those on the right say but people like Ted Nugent are not Conservative but Libertarian.I mean sure some of the things said about Obama were controversial but still truth,nonetheless.I know myself on here have never really bashed Obama eventhough I thought he made Jimmy Carter look like a good President and I thought he was the worse President since I've been political before Obama.What I don't get is why Obama is loved so much by the left as he actually set the Democrat Party back atleast twenty years by losing the House,Senate and thousands of State reps by the time he left. Ed continually denies that it was Hillary who first brought up Obama not being born in the US but Kenya even after I gave him proof,he still denies it.Yet he claims Trump started it,which is not true.I posted a video of Hillary back in 08 when she ran against Obama and she is being asked about it and yet it was ignored.Sure shje was walking back what her campaign did,but it is true it came from her campaign. Hillary's campaign floated it out and hinted at it,but then she walked it back when called on it blaming it on a campaign staffer.I think that it has to be social issues that are so important to liberals things like abortion,same sex marriages,transgender bathrooms,man-made climate change,etc and not so much their actual agenda as far as the economy,etc goes because Democrats have never made the rich pay their fair share and have never stook up for the little guy like they have been running on for decades. They don't tax the rich,but the middle class and poor but they have never made the rich pay their fair share and yet are still running on it.Liberals are still waiting with them running on it again in this election.But they like to use the courts to force their social issues on to America against its will and this is the most important to them.

I know myself left the Republican Party behind when I realized they never fulfill their campaign promises as far as conservative issues eventhough they run on it in order to win election. Yet I see Democrats winning on the social issues while conservatives have nothing to show and for decades. So that it must be social issues that the left is most focused on and not so much fiscal policies that have hurt the American people and have made them slaves to the Government.

ACB wrote:
...but I would not stand for a conservative using slander in order to win politically...

You mean that you'd stand against a "conservative" political candidate, if he...say...
accused another candidate's father of helping to kill JFK?

Because, that would be slander. And I'd assume that you'd call someone out, if he did that, right?

I mean, you wouldn't let anyone get a pass for such a slanderous accusation, right?

RickD wrote: ↑Sat Nov 09, 2019 10:23 pm

ACB wrote:
...but I would not stand for a conservative using slander in order to win politically...

You mean that you'd stand against a "conservative" political candidate, if he...say...
accused another candidate's father of helping to kill JFK?

Because, that would be slander. And I'd assume that you'd call someone out, if he did that, right?

I mean, you wouldn't let anyone get a pass for such a slanderous accusation, right?

I'm not convinced it is not true.When I first heard it I did'nt know what to think but instead of rejecting it out of hand and calling it a conspiracy theory I decided to look into it and consider it and although I'm not sure it can be proven,as it has been awhile now since I looked into it it cannot be ruled out.You do know that the Deep State does not just effect the left and Democrats. I think this is overlooked because of the way the left has attacked Trump and so we fight back,but the Deep State effects both parties and it has been around for a very long time. Q reminded us not to just focus on Democrats because it effects the Republican Party also.Also so much has already been exposed that were once thought of as conspiracy theories that this that seems like a conspiracy theory could be true and probably is. I do not believe Trump just made it up and used it as a lie to win like the left does. If he said it,there is a reason for it. Now you may not even believe in a Deep State but it is no longer a conspiracy theory and so it does effect both parties and not just one. I mean even you have to think there is a lot of unanswered questions about JFK's death.It is not so cut and dry as to all of the details surrounding it.