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Hebrew 6:4

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2005 6:49 pm
by Bastian
The book of Hebrews is written to Jewish believers. A Jew had to pledge his faith in Jesus, rather then the Law of Moses.
The author is describing apostate believers. They have fallen away from the truth they had in Jesus Messiah; it is not about falling into sin. All sin is forgivable except one, blaspheming the Holy Spirit; it will not be forgiven in this age, or the one to come.

Once they had rejected the Lord after having had been partakers of the Holy Spirit, it would be impossible to renew them unto repentance. Christ cannot die for you twice; one cannot be born again, again. Renunciation, making a mockery, is putting Him to open shame.

Bastian

Re: how do you interpret Hebrews 6:4-6

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:06 am
by Jbuza
Jac3510 wrote:
  • For in the case of those who have once been enlightened and have tasted of the heavenly gift and have been made partakers of the Holy Spirit, and have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the age to come, and then have fallen away, it is impossible to renew them again to repentance, since they again crucify to themselves the Son of God and put Him to open shame. (Hebrews 6:4-6, NASB)
I wanted to get some opinions here on how you interpret Hebrews 6:4-6[/bible

I think you have to interpret it together with the rest of the WORD of God. It is a freightening passage. Isn't it. I think that it could also be interpreted in a way that is a great promise.

The power of Jesus Christ's sacrifice to his Holy Father restores. His love called all men to him so that any that would believe that he Is the Christ and His father Raised him from the dead. Those who have come to the fountian of His Spirit and recieved a son's gift from almighty God have an indelible mark in them and it is not possible for the cleansing spirit received at salvation to work in their life again. But isn't it grand that we have been Washed? Doesn't this simply mean that when we are Saved that we are curcified with Christ, and that we will have resurrection into a clean Spirit one day?

Once this happens we have a changed relationship with the Creator.

I think this is where it is important to look to other words from God and realize that we can go to our Father ourselves. We don't crucify Jesus every time we sin, but we do go to a gracious Father in Heaven and confess and glorify God and seek repentance like his servant David did. The spirit of repentance is in us that we received and that makes us cry out to God.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:16 am
by Jbuza
August wrote: he already had it, and rejected it.
Can this man come to God and seek repentance and a renewed relationship with God?

True he cannot receive the cleansing of the spirit of repentance that brings New Birth, but I believe that God is Faithful and Just.

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2005 8:28 am
by Jbuza
voicingmaster wrote:I was born and raised Christian, but went Pagan for couple years until I saw the error of my ways. Then I came back to Christ. But, does this mean that I'm lost forever no matter what, according to the passage in Hebrews?
No! It means turn to your Father and purposly use that spirit of repentance that you received when you came to Jesus and received adoption.
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will he be thought worthy who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, counted the blood of the covenant by which he was sanctified a common thing.

Should one run to Jesus and say save me by your blood every time they do something from the flesh and against God's laws? Go to your Father, Seek him out you are His son like Jesus is.

What of the Eucharist then? It is the commandment of Jesus in remembering him and his love for us, but I think some people believe they are saved by constant claiming the Blood of Jesus to covor everything.

If you have ever been crucified with Jesus and received NEW Life than turn to your Father.