SaintConfused wrote:Cross.eyed
If all the universe came by random chance, what would there be to hope for?
All the universe. The answer is in you're own question, imagine that. '
Chance' isn't random, but it's also not too common either. There is a high '
chance' it's going to rain again tomorrow, does this make the event of rain itself '
random'? no, not at all. Other factors come into account with the universe, this is why
natural selection has been observed and become aware too humanity in the first place. There was no '
random chance' that we came across this principle, it was already established even before the first humans came along. We don't have to deny gravity, just because there is a '
chance' that another fire will consume the forests of California this year as well. The universe didn't come by '
random chance', even though a random, chaotic, 'living', realm (or deity, I'm not forcing you to decide either option) would provide the '
chance' for the universe to expand and to have various lifeforms. Tapeworms, and other parasitic organisms can if not already do exist inside us. Let's narrow things down by calling an organ for instance the stomach is going to be 'Earth' temporarily, these parasites will compete and eliminate each other if the environment doesn't extinct them all up in one sweep. The placement was
not '
random', and there is a
high chance/probability as well as a
low chance/probability that various things could have happened within the organ/Earth. It is anything but '
random', however the changes each species will go through will be '
random' and the chances are staggering
near '
impossible' outcomes. This does not make existence, in itself, alone, a '
random chance' without something (or someone, whichever you prefer) to guide the '
chance' and something to avoid bringing absolute order too the '
randomness'.
What I was referring to is the definition of random;
1.) A haphazard course or progress-at random.
2.) Without definite aim, direction, rule, or method.
3.) Syn.-haphazard, casual, desultory-without order or rational connection.
...And the definition of chance;
1.) A falling of dice, of fortune.
2.) something that befalls as the result of unknown or unconsidered forces.
3.) In general, a risk or gamble.
4.) Syn.-accident, fortune, luck, hazard.
So...if you will allow; random chance-without aim, an accidental chance.
In other words, If we come by chance from randomness, then we "leave" by the same process which leaves us nothing to hope for-nothingness.
If we are here accidentally, how could we trust that our brains are giving us accurate information?
We aren't here 'accidentally'. The brain is a receiver.
What purpose would there be if we can't trust the information we receive?
Without there being a creator, we are here by accident.
The human brain is also a producer- thoughts, emotions, reason, etc.
Can you explain the (outside) processes by which humans can reason?
In a world without absolutes, could we use such words as right and wrong?
We do anyways, often able to explain why one is 'right' and the other happens to be 'wrong'.
But not absolute right or wrong-the line becomes blurred without divine guidance.
If there is no justice, why do we have a conscience?
We are not conscience to heed an agreement made between several people that calls itself 'justice'. We are to observe the conscience these 'justice' makers and followers, even if we disagree with them. An 'unjust' conscience can and will adapt it's own 'justice', this is why America has 'Independence' (supposedly), amongst a few others. It is self-'justice', it has never really been 'justice for all' truly. Our conscience does not depend on 'justice', 'justice' is not part of the body or even an extension of it, as much as each of us should be able to customize and share our individual 'justice' without too much trouble by exercising our wills. We have 'conscience', because we can, not because we deserved it, or we're the best the universe (or God) has ever produced/'created'.
If God exists, we have justice. If He doesn't, there can be no justice. The history of human government has proven this.
What, if we merely live and die, would make for a meaningful life?
We can
contribute and guide ourselves, and each other, that's meaningful for a short life span.
And what, ultimatly, would be the purpose or meaning of life?
Where would we have ever gotten the concept of LOVE in a natural world?
A lot doesn't require a definition, an expression, or even a 'sign' to make itself culturally important.
Then I must ask; how does something so personal come from impersonal random chance processes?
BTW-my apology for taking so long to respond, I've been busy the last few days.