Christian doctrine of creation ?

[twinc]

so what exactly is your problem or point - a thousand years or more way out in the cosmos could be as a day at the centre which is earth - twinc

Actually my understanding of time dilation gives us the opposite effect of what you assert. Objects traveling at light speed out in the cosmos experience far less time passing then here on earth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yirQ4YXZZVk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-R8LGy-OVs

But either way, you started out saying that millions and millions of years never happened. Now, whether it's here on earth or out in space, you are saying it did happen. Are you conceding that at least part of creation is old?

you have it exactly wrongly- I am countering what has been said and insisted upon that I/we accept - are we to accept that the earth is millions of years older than the cosmos - twinc

[jon510]

you have it exactly wrongly- I am countering what has been said and insisted upon that I/we accept - twinc

Countering what? Time dilation? You brought it up to support your point. Please explain what it is we all must accept?

[twinc]

you have it exactly wrongly- I am countering what has been said and insisted upon that I/we accept - twinc

Countering what? Time dilation? You brought it up to support your point. Please explain what it is we all must accept?

are we to accept that the earth is millions of years older than the cosmos - daft I call it - of course it would have to be for any human,animal,fish,bird,insect or plant life to survive without being boiled or incinerated - twinc

[jon510]

are we to accept that the earth is millions of years older than the cosmos - daft I call it - of course it would have to be for any human,animal,fish,bird,insect or plant life to survive without being boiled or incinerated - twinc

No. I'm asking what is it we must accept that you claim we haven't? Why do you say there can't have been life millions of years ago? What makes you think they would be boiled? Do you have some evidence besides your word or your interpretation of scripture? I'm not asking to cause you doubt. I would just like to know how you reached your conclusions.

[twinc]

are we to accept that the earth is millions of years older than the cosmos - daft I call it - of course it would have to be for any human,animal,fish,bird,insect or plant life to survive without being boiled or incinerated - twinc

No. I'm asking what is it we must accept that you claim we haven't? Why do you say there can't have been life millions of years ago? What makes you think they would be boiled? Do you have some evidence besides your word or your interpretation of scripture? I'm not asking to cause you doubt. I would just like to know how you reached your conclusions.

anyone care to enlighten Jon,so that he doesnt have to accept my word or interpretation - I cant be fairer or surer than that - twinc

[RickD]

are we to accept that the earth is millions of years older than the cosmos - daft I call it - of course it would have to be for any human,animal,fish,bird,insect or plant life to survive without being boiled or incinerated - twinc

No. I'm asking what is it we must accept that you claim we haven't? Why do you say there can't have been life millions of years ago? What makes you think they would be boiled? Do you have some evidence besides your word or your interpretation of scripture? I'm not asking to cause you doubt. I would just like to know how you reached your conclusions.

anyone care to enlighten Jon,so that he doesnt have to accept my word or interpretation - I cant be fairer or surer than that - twinc

Twinc, I'm with Jon here. Prove your assertions. No more posting your opinions without some kind of reference.