PaulSacramento wrote:Sorry, I wasn't clear, but I was pointing out that not knowing that soemthing exists doesn't mean it DOESN'T exist, it means that YOU/WE don't know that it does.
Our knowledge of something, or lack there of, has NOTHING to do with that something.
Paul, I know what you were saying. I was just teasing you.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
PaulSacramento wrote:Sorry, I wasn't clear, but I was pointing out that not knowing that soemthing exists doesn't mean it DOESN'T exist, it means that YOU/WE don't know that it does.
Our knowledge of something, or lack there of, has NOTHING to do with that something.
Paul, I know what you were saying. I was just teasing you.
PaulSacramento wrote:Sorry, I wasn't clear, but I was pointing out that not knowing that soemthing exists doesn't mean it DOESN'T exist, it means that YOU/WE don't know that it does.
Our knowledge of something, or lack there of, has NOTHING to do with that something.
Or does it? Certainly that would be the intuitive approach but how do we prove this? It seems we must have faith in the persistent and uniform nature of the universe.
PaulSacramento wrote:Sorry, I wasn't clear, but I was pointing out that not knowing that soemthing exists doesn't mean it DOESN'T exist, it means that YOU/WE don't know that it does.
Our knowledge of something, or lack there of, has NOTHING to do with that something.
Or does it? Certainly that would be the intuitive approach but how do we prove this? It seems we must have faith in the persistent and uniform nature of the universe.
Faith is all we have.
We have faith that the sun will "rise" tomorrow, but we don't know that for sure ( and one day it won't).
twinc wrote:can something exist that has not been thought of or created - twinc
Yes, twinc. God exists, and He wasn't created.
John 5:24 24 “Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into life.
“A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves.”
-Edward R Murrow
St. Richard the Sarcastic--The Patron Saint of Irony
twinc wrote:Besides God can something exist that has not been thought of or created - btw God is not a thing or a something - God is no thing - twinc
If we assume that God exists, and that He is omniscient, then everything else that exists was thought of.
"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces." Matthew 7:6
"For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Romans 1:20
