Evidence for God from Science

outlaw wrote:
So how would you know if something existed outside of the capacity of the human brain?

Good question...I don't know how to answer that.

If there was some sort of link provided for knowing it, between the Maker and the human, then that would be the only way.

But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Take for instance the newborn child does not really recognize its parents, it may know the warmth of mum, but it can't tell what you do for a job, or even who you are. Does that mean you don't exist?

Starhunter wrote:

outlaw wrote:
So how would you know if something existed outside of the capacity of the human brain?

Good question...I don't know how to answer that.

If there was some sort of link provided for knowing it, between the Maker and the human, then that would be the only way.

But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Take for instance the newborn child does not really recognize its parents, it may know the warmth of mum, but it can't tell what you do for a job, or even who you are. Does that mean you don't exist?

I know what you mean and I think were getting into the Russells teapot argument, not sure if your familiar with it. Wikipedia it.

But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Maybe it is, but if we used that method there would be an infinite amount of things you could claim existed outside of what we can grasp or perceive, but you'd have no good reason or no grounds to convince others that they should believe any of them actually exist..

outlaw wrote:But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Maybe it is, but if we used that method there would be an infinite amount of things you could claim existed outside of what we can grasp or perceive, but you'd have no good reason or no grounds to convince others that they should believe any of them actually exist..

By the same token since one cannot see logic they ought not use then. There goes any rational argument anyone has ever made.

Byblos wrote:

outlaw wrote:But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Maybe it is, but if we used that method there would be an infinite amount of things you could claim existed outside of what we can grasp or perceive, but you'd have no good reason or no grounds to convince others that they should believe any of them actually exist..

By the same token since one cannot see logic they ought not use then. There goes any rational argument anyone has ever made.

Stop it your hurting my brain now.

outlaw wrote:

Byblos wrote:

outlaw wrote:But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Maybe it is, but if we used that method there would be an infinite amount of things you could claim existed outside of what we can grasp or perceive, but you'd have no good reason or no grounds to convince others that they should believe any of them actually exist..

By the same token since one cannot see logic they ought not use then. There goes any rational argument anyone has ever made.

Stop it your hurting my brain now.

It's just your imagination, you can't see pain, it must not exist. Come to think of it neither does your imagination.

Clever Byblos

Byblos wrote:

outlaw wrote:

Byblos wrote:

outlaw wrote:But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Maybe it is, but if we used that method there would be an infinite amount of things you could claim existed outside of what we can grasp or perceive, but you'd have no good reason or no grounds to convince others that they should believe any of them actually exist..

By the same token since one cannot see logic they ought not use then. There goes any rational argument anyone has ever made.

Stop it your hurting my brain now.

It's just your imagination, you can't see pain, it must not exist. Come to think of it neither does your imagination.

Ill just imagine that my imagination exists.

outlaw wrote:

Byblos wrote:

outlaw wrote:

Byblos wrote:

outlaw wrote:But isn't it unscientific to say that only what we can grasp or fathom or perceive is all that there is?

Maybe it is, but if we used that method there would be an infinite amount of things you could claim existed outside of what we can grasp or perceive, but you'd have no good reason or no grounds to convince others that they should believe any of them actually exist..

By the same token since one cannot see logic they ought not use then. There goes any rational argument anyone has ever made.

Stop it your hurting my brain now.

It's just your imagination, you can't see pain, it must not exist. Come to think of it neither does your imagination.

Ill just imagine that my imagination exists.

Whilst your imagining the unmeasurable but indisputable, I'll imagine your coming around

Edit: that sounds not how i intended! Just to clarify I meant come around in his line of thinking

Whilst your imagining the unmeasurable but indisputable, I'll imagine your coming around  Edit: that sounds not how i intended! Just to clarify I meant come around in his line of thinking 

hahaa I'll need your address then.

outlaw wrote:

Whilst your imagining the unmeasurable but indisputable, I'll imagine your coming around  Edit: that sounds not how i intended! Just to clarify I meant come around in his line of thinking 

hahaa I'll need your address then.

outlaw wrote:

Whilst your imagining the unmeasurable but indisputable, I'll imagine your coming around Edit: that sounds not how i intended! Just to clarify I meant come around in his line of thinking

hahaa I'll need your address then.

The photo isn't of melanie but of her sister Melissa. Melanie weighs 400 pounds and has a cigarette permanently dangling from her mouth. I thought you should be told the truth.

FL

Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:

outlaw wrote:

Whilst your imagining the unmeasurable but indisputable, I'll imagine your coming around Edit: that sounds not how i intended! Just to clarify I meant come around in his line of thinking

hahaa I'll need your address then.

The photo isn't of melanie but of her sister Melissa. Melanie weighs 400 pounds and has a cigarette permanently dangling from her mouth. I thought you should be told the truth.

FL

LM*AO

and so it is in the world of the world wide web

Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:

outlaw wrote:

Whilst your imagining the unmeasurable but indisputable, I'll imagine your coming around Edit: that sounds not how i intended! Just to clarify I meant come around in his line of thinking

hahaa I'll need your address then.

The photo isn't of melanie but of her sister Melissa. Melanie weighs 400 pounds and has a cigarette permanently dangling from her mouth. I thought you should be told the truth.

FL

Now your just teasing