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Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 7:54 am
by RickD
Storyteller,
Please don't feed the trolls anymore.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:03 am
by PaulSacramento
Furstentum Liechtenstein wrote:manden wrote:Thank you , Philip .
Of course , I know that the real creator of the universe exists - I have recognized it at the universe (took about 10 years) .
I have no religion (till about 30 years Christian) , because all religions are wrong .
Manden,
«Christianity» isn't a religion. A religion is a formalized (or institutionalized) way of worshipping a deity or deities. Or, a religion may also be some narrative about existence (as in forms of atheism & forms of Buddhism).
While there are religions that promote Christianity, Christianity is something else. So, if Jesus Christ is your God, you are a Christian. If your god is someone or something else, you are an
idiot idolater.
Get it?
I liked this already but I wanted to say that this is probably one of the best views on the difference between Christianity and "religions" I have read.
Simple, direct and spot one.
Well put FL.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 8:08 am
by Storyteller
RickD wrote:Storyteller,
Please don't feed the trolls anymore.
Spoilsport.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:08 am
by manden
Christianity is a religion , of course .
If you name it different , that does not matter .
It bases on the Jewish religion , where Jesus was member of .
And Jesus was just a man , perhaps in religious delusion , and his followers (also in religious delusion) invented stories
about him .
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:12 am
by RickD
manden wrote:Christianity is a religion , of course .
If you name it different , that does not matter .
It bases on the Jewish religion , where Jesus was member of .
And Jesus was just a man , perhaps in religious delusion , and his followers (also in religious delusion) invented stories
about him .
Jesus is God. He is the creator.
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:1
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:19 am
by manden
Your belief , you don't know . Other religions believe something different .
I am sure , that all these religions and all these Gods ( of course also Jesus ) are false !
Look at this world since many thousand years ! Where are the fruits of the religions ? There are none , more the opposite !
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:24 am
by RickD
manden wrote:Your belief , you don't know . Other religions believe something different .
I am sure , that all these religions and all these Gods ( of course also Jesus ) are false !
Look at this world since many thousand years ! Where are the fruits of the religions ? There are none , more the opposite !
John 14:6
Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.
1 John 4:1-6
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. 2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God; this is the spirit of the antichrist, of which you have heard that it is coming, and now it is already in the world.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:41 am
by manden
RickD , you cannot show something with a book , which is in the main wrong .
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:42 am
by Storyteller
manden wrote:Christianity is a religion , of course .
If you name it different , that does not matter .
It bases on the Jewish religion , where Jesus was member of .
And Jesus was just a man , perhaps in religious delusion , and his followers (also in religious delusion) invented stories
about him .
I think FL explained that Christianity is NOT a religion, it is a belief in Christ. Christ wasn't a "member" of a religion. He is God.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:43 am
by RickD
manden wrote:RickD , you cannot show something with a book , which is in the main wrong .
I'm showing you that you are arguing against essential Christian beliefs. And you are violating the rules of this forum that you agreed to, when you joined.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 10:46 am
by B. W.
RickD wrote:manden wrote:RickD , you cannot show something with a book , which is in the main wrong .
I'm showing you that you are arguing against essential Christian beliefs. And you are violating the rules of this forum that you agreed to, when you joined.
So an intelligent Creator being is not all powerful enough to use a book to help human beings know who he is, record his character in a historical presentation, and how to find him?
Wow, Manden your creator is not all powerful, is he or she?
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Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:30 am
by manden
The real creator of the universe is unimaginable more powerful than the God of the bible and the Gods of all religions
together ! But that is not difficult , they don't exist ! They are only human invention and imagination !
Who can may see .
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:49 am
by PaulSacramento
manden wrote:The real creator of the universe is unimaginable more powerful than the God of the bible and the Gods of all religions
together ! But that is not difficult , they don't exist ! They are only human invention and imagination !
Who can may see .
So the "real" creator is more powerful than the God of the bible that is Omnipotent?
Ok then.
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 11:54 am
by manden
Who tells you that the God of the bible is omnipotent ? Did you never read the bible ?
Re: The truth about the real creator of the universe
Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 12:00 pm
by PaulSacramento
manden wrote:Who tells you that the God of the bible is omnipotent ? Did you never read the bible ?
Ok then.
Well, since this just turned silly, I am out of here.
Good luck guys.