Evidence for God from Science

abelcainsbrother wrote:

Do you believe dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators ? Because there are evolutionists that teach these myths despite the lack of evidence.

This is typical of your invention of facts to suit yourself. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would teach such gibberish. The myth here is entirely yours, you made it up, and it is yet another of your falsehoods.


EVERYTHING you say that falls short of providing data contrary to ToE is just nattering.
Irrelevant, feckless, vacuous, trivial and utterly without any evidentiary value whatever.

I suggested that you refrain from saying anything further to me until you can produce at least one fact contrary to ToE. You have not done so, you are simply incapable of doing so.

Are you capable of even the honesty to admit it?

Audie wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:

Do you believe dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators ? Because there are evolutionists that teach these myths despite the lack of evidence.

This is typical of your invention of facts to suit yourself. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would teach such gibberish. The myth here is entirely yours, you made it up, and it is yet another of your falsehoods.


EVERYTHING you say that falls short of providing data contrary to ToE is just nattering.
Irrelevant, feckless, vacuous, trivial and utterly without any evidentiary value whatever.

I suggested that you refrain from saying anything further to me until you can produce at least one fact contrary to ToE. You have not done so, you are simply incapable of doing so.

Are you capable of even the honesty to admit it?

abelcainsbrother wrote:

Audie wrote:

abelcainsbrother wrote:

Do you believe dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators ? Because there are evolutionists that teach these myths despite the lack of evidence.

This is typical of your invention of facts to suit yourself. Nobody with an ounce of intelligence would teach such gibberish. The myth here is entirely yours, you made it up, and it is yet another of your falsehoods.


EVERYTHING you say that falls short of providing data contrary to ToE is just nattering.
Irrelevant, feckless, vacuous, trivial and utterly without any evidentiary value whatever.

I suggested that you refrain from saying anything further to me until you can produce at least one fact contrary to ToE. You have not done so, you are simply incapable of doing so.

Are you capable of even the honesty to admit it?

Are you denying that there are evolutionists that teach dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators?

Read for content. I said you made it up. As in fictional nonsense from your imagination,

I notice that you changed your wording, trying to hedge a bit. This is your original wording:

Do you believe dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators ? Because there are evolutionists that teach these myths despite the lack of evidence.

Nobody with any sense at all believes that. It is nowhere to be found in anything about ToE itself, even if some stupid person says it.
It is utter drivel now, it was drivel the first time.

You should not take it personally

More of your fantasy that you made up.

. Atleast I'm not just denying it without explaining why

Whatever ill informed personal reason you have is of no interest or evidentiary value.

You are denying that ToE is valid though you have, as noted some few times before,
not so much as one fact that is contrary to ToE.

You keep dodging that fact.

Something personal with you, that you cannot just admit you have no facts to offer?

]Audie -- to back up a bit -- there Are animals that live both in water and on land -- they are alligators / lizards / crocodiles. And whales are considered to be mammals.

It's been commented that it doesn't matter Where we came from How we got here -- just how we are developing now that we're here.

Well -- when a person is born-- it Does matter. We Want to know Where we came from / our parents / ancestry. Even adopted children with wonderful adoptive parents have a curiosity about their biological parents. Maybe they can't know because of circumstances out of their control. But there's Still that inborn curiosity. I came From Wisconsin and my parents Are -- and I Do have beliefs that are important to Me and I have no problem sharing them.

It has Also occurred to me that there are those who boohoo God's Word and His plan and way of doing things

That this world is doing / going okay without Him. Well -- at Some point we'll find out just how well this world does Without Him. Cause He Will be coming back to take born-again believers out of here to be with Him. We Do have His presence with us Now. But, as we can all probably notice. This world is getting worse and worse Not evolving gradually for the Better. Sure we have greater technology -- but our Behavior / morals / ethics is going down the tubes. And Part of this is due to the gradual disbelief in God and by default that this world / mankind came from 'nothing' and evolving with no particular purpose. Which Seems to be giving license to doing what ever seems right in our own eyes.

Because if there is no creator with no purpose, then what's really the point. If we simply are born and live and die and go by-by back to nothingness.[

crochet wrote:
And, of Course it has to do with evolution. Evolution is based on happenstance. This world is Not from happenstance. But a Designer -- an Intelligent One.

crochet1949 wrote:Who knows -- you and I Could have a little ape/chimp DNA in us instead of being a complete human being. And, after all, sometimes kids Can be 'little monkeys' when they're growing up.

hughfarey wrote:Abelcainsbrother, I'm afraid you still show a profound lack of understanding of the phenomena you deny so vehemently. Evolution requires a number of factors to produce new species, the most important of which is environmental pressure. As the area around Chernobyl is entirely suitable for wolves as we know them, and test-tubes of sugar are entirely suitable for fruit flies as we know them, it is no surprise that these animals have not evolved into something else.

There are no evolutionists who teach that "dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators, or fish evolved blindness because they live in dark water with no light" in such crude terms. If you think you have heard such teaching, then you probably weren't paying sufficient attention. If a modification in the DNA of a single animal of a single species of reptile, resulting in split scales which trapped air between them and the skin, was not deleterious to that animal, then that DNA would have been passed on to some of that creature's offspring, and then to their offspring, and so on. Some scientists think that such creatures were able to be more active in cooler periods, as they were covered in better insulation. If these creatures, in falling from trees, found that their layer of air protected them from breakage, then a further use for their peculiar skin-covering had been discovered and put to use. If they used this facility to escape from predators, then their preferential survival, over their fellows with no such modification, would have tended to increase their numbers at the expense of their fellows, poor things. This is a far cry from the teleological "dinosaurs evolved wings to escape predators".

You cannot believe Francis Crick's 'Central Dogma' because you don't really know what it is, and when I present it here you won't understand it. Here it is: "The central dogma of molecular biology deals with the detailed residue-by-residue transfer of sequential information. It states that such information cannot be transferred back from protein to either protein or nucleic acid." Note that it says nothing at all about the copying of DNA, nor of mutation caused by radiation. You also seem to confuse environmental pressure on groups of organisms, causing them to evolve, with environmental pressure on DNA, which doesn't make a lot of sense (although nuclear radiation can and does alter DNA.)

RickD wrote:

crochet wrote:
And, of Course it has to do with evolution. Evolution is based on happenstance. This world is Not from happenstance. But a Designer -- an Intelligent One.

Crochet,

That's simply not accurate. Evolution does not equal Godless happenstance. That's another misrepresentation by certain people, as part of presenting an either/or false dichotomy. It's just dishonest rhetoric.

crochet1949 wrote:RickD. Then what Is evolution --Your perspective. Just Yours.

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote:

crochet wrote:
And, of Course it has to do with evolution. Evolution is based on happenstance. This world is Not from happenstance. But a Designer -- an Intelligent One.

Crochet,

That's simply not accurate. Evolution does not equal Godless happenstance. That's another misrepresentation by certain people, as part of presenting an either/or false dichotomy. It's just dishonest rhetoric.

And evolution is not "the world".