Evidence for God from Science

Kurieuo wrote:Global warming, err.. climate change... umm, or is it extreme weather. I don't know where the goal posts are at today.

Regardless, governments and big corporate types are the biggest killers and polluters. Pollution is the real issue everyone can agree on, and it kills the environment, peoples' lives and whole communities. Just YouTube oil pollution and community ruined and look up pollution disasters.

At the heart is normally greed and desire for oil, other valuable minerals, wealth and power. Governments and big corporates would have the masses debate, while laughing at their fat cat table with their money, selfish ambition and immorality.

I really don't care what the symptom is, or what it is called, I'd much prefer the main cause be tackled which has always been pollution by those who simply don't care as long as they is profit. Pollution caused from raping the land, pillaging communities, and murdering people. Wars seem to go hand-in-hand, much of it is about the same thing.

Stu wrote:Alleged “Consensus on Climate Change” Is Actually Only 75 Hand-Picked US Scientists

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An opinion survey of earth scientists on global climate change was conducted by Margaret R K Zimmerman, MS, and published by the University of Illinois in 2008.

Aside from his support from Dr Pantsdoumi, Mann often claims the imprimatur of "settled science": 97 per cent of the world's scientists supposedly believe in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming requiring massive government intervention.

That percentage derives from a survey conducted for a thesis by M R K Zimmerman.

The "survey" was a two-question, online questionnaire sent to 10,257 earth scientists, of whom [only] 3,146 responded.

Of the responding scientists, 96.2 per cent came from North America.

Only 6.2 per cent came from Canada. So the United States is overrepresented even within that North American sample.

Nine per cent of US respondents are from California. So California is overrepresented within not just the US sample: it has over twice as large a share of the sample as Europe, Asia, Australia, the Pacific, Latin America and Africa combined.

Of the ten per cent of non-US respondents, Canada has 62 per cent.

Not content with such a distorted sample, the researchers then selected 79 of their sample and declared them "experts."

Of those 79 scientists, two were excluded from a second supplementary question. So 75 out of 77 made it through to the final round, and 97.4 per cent were found to agree with "the consensus". That's where the 97 per cent comes from.

So this is a very Michael Mann "reconstruction": just as a couple of Californian bristlecones can determine the climate for a millennium, so a couple of dozen Californian scientists can determine the consensus of the world.

Quoted the applicable part, you can read the entire article here.

melanie wrote:What is the go with Americans and the denial of global warming and the devasting effects that humans are having on our environment, from mass extinctions, to habitat destruction, greenhouse gases , gross over popularisation, destruction of the coral reefs, depletion of natural resources, deforestation and just a general disregard for Mother Nature in what ever way the industrial complex sees fit but yet manage to stay fully and obsessively focused on how the government is conspiring to disarm them and take away their weapons along with plan for Muslims to take over the world but somehow they mistake real concern for conspiracy propaganda in regards to the environment.

RickD wrote:

melanie wrote:What is the go with Americans and the denial of global warming and the devasting effects that humans are having on our environment, from mass extinctions, to habitat destruction, greenhouse gases , gross over popularisation, destruction of the coral reefs, depletion of natural resources, deforestation and just a general disregard for Mother Nature in what ever way the industrial complex sees fit but yet manage to stay fully and obsessively focused on how the government is conspiring to disarm them and take away their weapons along with plan for Muslims to take over the world but somehow they mistake real concern for conspiracy propaganda in regards to the environment.

Mal Gore, is that you?

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote:

melanie wrote:What is the go with Americans and the denial of global warming and the devasting effects that humans are having on our environment, from mass extinctions, to habitat destruction, greenhouse gases , gross over popularisation, destruction of the coral reefs, depletion of natural resources, deforestation and just a general disregard for Mother Nature in what ever way the industrial complex sees fit but yet manage to stay fully and obsessively focused on how the government is conspiring to disarm them and take away their weapons along with plan for Muslims to take over the world but somehow they mistake real concern for conspiracy propaganda in regards to the environment.

Mal Gore, is that you?

Algore used periods, so prolly not.

melanie wrote:What is the go with Americans and the denial of global warming and the devasting effects that humans are having on our environment, from mass extinctions, to habitat destruction, greenhouse gases , gross over popularisation, destruction of the coral reefs, depletion of natural resources, deforestation and just a general disregard for Mother Nature in what ever way the industrial complex sees fit but yet manage to stay fully and obsessively focused on how the government is conspiring to disarm them and take away their weapons along with plan for Muslims to take over the world but somehow they mistake real concern for conspiracy propaganda in regards to the environment.

RickD wrote:

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote:

melanie wrote:What is the go with Americans and the denial of global warming and the devasting effects that humans are having on our environment, from mass extinctions, to habitat destruction, greenhouse gases , gross over popularisation, destruction of the coral reefs, depletion of natural resources, deforestation and just a general disregard for Mother Nature in what ever way the industrial complex sees fit but yet manage to stay fully and obsessively focused on how the government is conspiring to disarm them and take away their weapons along with plan for Muslims to take over the world but somehow they mistake real concern for conspiracy propaganda in regards to the environment.

Mal Gore, is that you?

Algore used periods, so prolly not.

I was going to make a joke about how Mel's posts seem to indicate that she only posts when she has her period, but that may be inappropriate. So never mind.

Kurieuo wrote:

RickD wrote:

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote:

melanie wrote:What is the go with Americans and the denial of global warming and the devasting effects that humans are having on our environment, from mass extinctions, to habitat destruction, greenhouse gases , gross over popularisation, destruction of the coral reefs, depletion of natural resources, deforestation and just a general disregard for Mother Nature in what ever way the industrial complex sees fit but yet manage to stay fully and obsessively focused on how the government is conspiring to disarm them and take away their weapons along with plan for Muslims to take over the world but somehow they mistake real concern for conspiracy propaganda in regards to the environment.

Mal Gore, is that you?

Algore used periods, so prolly not.

I was going to make a joke about how Mel's posts seem to indicate that she only posts when she has her period, but that may be inappropriate. So never mind.

Ew Rick! Hiding in Mel's closet is one thing, but when she has he period you could at least give some privacy.

B. W. wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

RickD wrote:

Audie wrote:

RickD wrote: Mal Gore, is that you?

Algore used periods, so prolly not.

I was going to make a joke about how Mel's posts seem to indicate that she only posts when she has her period, but that ma2y be inappropriate. So never mind.

Ew Rick! Hiding in Mel's closet is one thing, but when she has he period you could at least give some privacy.

Send Rick to the doghouse!

We need a dog house emoticon...

Bad Rick - Heard he is just having his male period right now. He bought a Harley and a Bentley with a trailer to haul the Harley to Sturgs SD for the Rally next year. He dyed his hair (wig) blond too...
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Audie wrote:

B. W. wrote:

Kurieuo wrote:

RickD wrote:

Audie wrote:
Algore used periods, so prolly not.

I was going to make a joke about how Mel's posts seem to indicate that she only posts when she has her period, but that ma2y be inappropriate. So never mind.

Ew Rick! Hiding in Mel's closet is one thing, but when she has he period you could at least give some privacy.

Send Rick to the doghouse!

We need a dog house emoticon...

Bad Rick - Heard he is just having his male period right now. He bought a Harley and a Bentley with a trailer to haul the Harley to Sturgs SD for the Rally next year. He dyed his hair (wig) blond too...
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I should do that too. I am seeing it all now.

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