Re: Are we really 99 Percent the Same as Chimps?
Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 6:12 pm
Sometimes I wonder if the jokes around here are too crude and not like what Paul tells us to do. Thoughts?
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thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Sometimes I wonder if the jokes around here are too crude and not like what Paul tells us to do. Thoughts?
RickD wrote:thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Sometimes I wonder if the jokes around here are too crude and not like what Paul tells us to do. Thoughts?
hughfarey wrote:BigHamster wrote:Hamsters ! ..........
The conclusion to the article at tasc-creationscience.org which you reference contains a major misrepresentation,.
BigHamster wrote:RickD wrote:thatkidakayoungguy wrote:Sometimes I wonder if the jokes around here are too crude and not like what Paul tells us to do. Thoughts?hughfarey wrote:BigHamster wrote:Hamsters ! ..........
The conclusion to the article at tasc-creationscience.org which you reference contains a major misrepresentation,.
Well, the article didn't mention the possibility of recessive genes that usually lay dormant for millions of years. These can be re-activated - scientists have managed to re-express these genes and demonstrate the common traits both in hamsters and humans under laboratory conditions. For irrefutable proof........
I really hope you are joking, Hugh. If not, you are no scientist (researcher with access to journals, perhaps). Or you really need to stay out of any field of biology and genetics. So many lies in what you just wrote... are you really comparing the rejection of blood similar to that of a pig heart valve?hughfarey wrote:Chimp blood would be as acceptable as human blood. It is not favoured owing to the greater accessibility of volunteer humans than chimps. Some of the earliest blood transfusions were carried out with lamb's blood, and pig's blood has also been considered. I wouldn't mind any of these, or most other mammals' blood being given me, as long as the same appropriate compatibility tests regarding blood-groups and antibodies were carried out as they are with other human blood. Pig heart valves are routinely used in humans, and tissue from cows' heart muscle is also used to make replacement valves.
I'm neither joking nor lying. Please point out one of the "so many lies" and I'll be happy to justify in it full.Mallz wrote:I really hope you are joking, Hugh. If not, you are no scientist (researcher with access to journals, perhaps). Or you really need to stay out of any field of biology and genetics. So many lies in what you just wrote... are you really comparing the rejection of blood similar to that of a pig heart valve?
Cubeus, I'll tell you who is risking a ban - it's YOU! You are asserting some things about Hugh that you've not substantiated, and that are in contradiction to what HE says he believes. I have to take his own words into consideration and not just jump to conclusions. How about trying to ask him questions - don't just ACCUSE! Show some grace! If Hugh had come across as you assert, blatantly trying to bring harm to Christianity, I would be one of the first to move to shut him down. I don't always agree with his reasoning, don't understand all of his motives, some of his contradictions of his stated beliefs vs. Scripture, but he does have a right to state what he believes, as long as he is courteous - and he has been. He's not violated forum protocol. He also showed a lot of restraint by not responding nastily to your frontal assault. YOUR post is anything but showing grace or being courteous. Do BETTER unless YOU want a vacation!Cubeus: Well for 1 hugefairy you are basically an atheist in disguise I wouldn't be surprised if you work closely with Richard Dawkins and with atheist think tank organizations to do everything you can to bring down Christianity and sow seeds of doubt among everyone here. You do not consider evidence at all, when bippy and others lay out the case nicely for things like the Shroud, ndes, and evidence against evolution you always try to steer the conversation to something else and avoid key pieces of evidence when others like bippy bring them up. You are so entranced with physicalism and evolution which you ironically defend so passionately, it appears so clearly that you work for the atheist opposition. I'm surprised that during your 666th post you didn't pay honor to satan since you obviously want to see Christianity eradicated and wiped off the map. You are a arrogant cowardly atheist troll, and I hope you get banned soon, there is a reason why you are listed as a "anti member" anyway. So board, don't listen to hugefairy because after all he's nothing but a hugefairy anyway!
Great, get me on the same page then and justify the underlined please that I see as you lying about (inadvertently or not). And I apologize for my tone towards you.hughfarey wrote:I'm neither joking nor lying. Please point out one of the "so many lies" and I'll be happy to justify in it full.
hughfarey wrote:
Chimp blood would be as acceptable as human blood. It is not favoured (this isn't even a thought, don't pretend it has anything to do with population accessibility) owing to the greater accessibility of volunteer humans than chimps. Some of the earliest blood transfusions were carried out with lamb's blood, and pig's blood has also been considered (All those patients died, why are you even talking about them like it was a success?). I wouldn't mind any of these, or most other mammals' blood being given me, as long as the same appropriate compatibility tests regarding blood-groups and antibodies were carried out as they are with other human blood (it's more complex than type and screening, cmon man). Pig heart valves are routinely used in humans, and tissue from cows' heart muscle is also used to make replacement valves. (Big difference in the body rejecting tissue vs. blood so don't equate them)
Sounds like irrefutable proof of evolution to me.Philip wrote:OK, great, even IF chimp blood is so similar, that proves nothing that a common Creator/Designer must be responsible for. Same is true for physical similarities in species, DNA, etc. Really, it proves nothing at all.
I completely agree!Philip wrote:OK, great, even IF chimp blood is so similar, that proves nothing that a common Creator/Designer must be responsible for. Same is true for physical similarities in species, DNA, etc. Really, it proves nothing at all.