Pope Calls Gay Marriage Part of 'Ideology of Evil'

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Check your PM.

I also did not say that we should not answer false charges, it was more a response to your comment that people don't seem to listen.
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Thanks August.

If anyone lives and votes in Texas, please get out and vote for Prop 2 on the 8th of November.

Thanks a heap! :D
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Homosexuality is not wrong. If people love each other leave them be don't bother them with what this so called God said.
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If two homosexuals desire to marry, they have the right to fight for that. We have the right to tell them that what they are doing is wrong.
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Well where does this lead. IT seem clear to me that the natural progression of indoctrinating society to beleive that peole are born Gay and that being Gay is OK leads to acceptance of other sexual perversions.

Aren't pedophiles born pedophiles and if a man and a boy really love each other can't they fight for their sexual rights? If a man loves dead bodies shouldn't he be able to fight for his sexual rights? Well If a man wants to murder and have sex with a fresh dead body shouldn't he be able to fight for his sexual rights.

I know the response is well no one finds pedophilia OK, or necrophilia, etc etc etc. Well it wasn't very long ago when noone found homosexuality OK ('cept the gays). I mean if we shouldn't force our morality on Gays why should we force it on anyone?

THIS WORLD IS GOING TO HELL AND IT APPEARS MORE AND MORE ALL THE TIME THAT IT DESERVES IT. Well I deserved it to, but I know there is and I have salvation, and perhaps there will be a third great awakening in this country.
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Mystical wrote:If two homosexuals desire to marry, they have the right to fight for that. We have the right to tell them that what they are doing is wrong.

If the homosexuals don't belive in God and all that stuff why should they be told what they are doing is wrong by people who belive in God
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stjimmythepunk wrote:
Mystical wrote:If two homosexuals desire to marry, they have the right to fight for that. We have the right to tell them that what they are doing is wrong.

If the homosexuals don't belive in God and all that stuff why should they be told what they are doing is wrong by people who belive in God
If they don't believe in God, can you logically figure out that male to male or female to female sexual desires are not compatible? Do male to male or female to female create babies? Is it possible without intervention?
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Because whether they believe in Him or not He exists. And He desires that we teach others to acknowledge the wrongness in their actions.
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stjimmythepunk wrote:
Mystical wrote:If two homosexuals desire to marry, they have the right to fight for that. We have the right to tell them that what they are doing is wrong.

If the homosexuals don't belive in God and all that stuff why should they be told what they are doing is wrong by people who belive in God
If two homosexuals want to marry and society says it is wrong, and they get together with a large number of other homosexuals, why should they force their views and work to get society to accept their views?
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Believer wrote:
stjimmythepunk wrote:
Mystical wrote:If two homosexuals desire to marry, they have the right to fight for that. We have the right to tell them that what they are doing is wrong.

If the homosexuals don't belive in God and all that stuff why should they be told what they are doing is wrong by people who belive in God
If they don't believe in God, can you logically figure out that male to male or female to female sexual desires are not compatible? Do male to male or female to female create babies? Is it possible without intervention?
They might not want to have babies but if they do they can do something really good and adopt.
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stjimmythepunk wrote:
Mystical wrote:If two homosexuals desire to marry, they have the right to fight for that. We have the right to tell them that what they are doing is wrong.
If the homosexuals don't belive in God and all that stuff why should they be told what they are doing is wrong by people who belive in God
Unfortunately they live in a society. In a society it is required by individuals to follow certain rules and customs. It is their right to fight for additional rights and freedoms, however it is not their right to expect change. Everyone within a society must abide by the rules of such society.

Unfortunately for Gays and Lesbians it is the opinion of the majority that such acts are abominations of nature.

As it is the rules of society which allows stability and all of the good which comes from living in a cooperative society, one must obey these rules.
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Post by under_milk_wood »

Paedophilia - exploits children who are too young to understand sexual relations. This is why it is wrong.

Necrophilia - You know, the only argument I can think of against this is the torment caused to the family if someone goes grave robbing. But that's an argument against grave robbing.

Murder - is murder. It's the most harm one person can do against one other person. This is why murder is wrong.

Homosexuality - is when two people of the same sex share romantic or sexual desire for each other. What harm does this cause anyone?
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1 Corinthians 5:12-13 comes to mind: "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside? God will judge those outside."

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