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Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 2:34 pm
by Anonymous
Belief would be any cognitive content held as true. If satan "truly" believed would he have turned?

So can we agree there could be a diffenrence between simple acknowledgement & truly believing.

While I might acknowledge a strangers smile can I have belief his smile to be truly genuine?

Obvious Proof Doesn't Equate Belief

Posted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 6:29 pm
by kateliz
Like others here have said, people make excuses for why not to believe. I can't find the verse, (right-hand page, bottom of page, in gospels,) but it's pointed out somewhere in the gospels that miracles were performed in front of people, but the crowd who witnessed them were split as to whether to believe in what they plainly saw or not. Jesus said many times that He would not perform miracles for those who would not believe even if they saw them. He wasn't about to entertain scoffers or plead with His wonders for people to love Him and realize He was God. When the gift of tongues, (many languages,) was given to the disciples at Pentecost, despite the people from lots of different countries hearing their own languages being spoken by people they knew could not have known the languages, their unbelief caused them to resort to accusing the disciples of being drunk that morning. Also, when God spoke at Jesus' baptism, (was it here or elsewhere?) some of the people who heard distinct words being spoken, out of desire for it not to be real, told themselves it was just thunder. Other people who acknowledged Jesus' miracles said that instead of the power coming from God it came from Satan or demons. All excuses. Obvious proof doesn't equate belief.

Re: Obvious Proof Doesn't Equate Belief

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:48 am
by CountryBoy
kateliz wrote:I can't find the verse, (right-hand page, bottom of page, in gospels,)
I love that. When I first got saved I called my neighbor who was a Christian to ask her what a certain verse meant. She was looking it up and I said, it's on page 239, right hand column, in the middle. She then informed me that there were different versions as well as different sized type. etc. etc. etc.

Posted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 8:59 pm
by kateliz
I was actually talking to myself! I know those things, but nothing more off-hand. I also mentioned it as kind of a weak way to say that, yes, it's in there somewhere! Still don't feel like looking it up. :)