Jac3510 wrote:When Christ justifies us of our sins, does He justify us only of our past sins, or all sins, past, present, and future? It should be obvious that Christ forgives us of ALL sin. There is no condemnation for those in Jesus. NONE.
The moment we believe in Christ, He justifies all our sins. No problem with that. Yes, there is no more condemnation for those who are IN Christ. But a person could be IN Christ only by his faith. If that person begins to lose his faith as evidenced by the kind of life he lives now (remember that saving faith is proven by works according to James), then he caanot be said to be IN Christ. A person who is IN Christ lives a new life (2 Cor. 5:17).
I have said it a million times before: we cannot unjustify what God has justified. What God has declared righteous, we cannot declare unrighteous. But, just because we are JUSTIFIED does not mean we will be thoroughly SANCTIFIED in this life. We can lose our inheritance in heaven . . . not our place
I disagree. Paul rebuked the Galatians who have been set free and yet they were trying to be justified by law which causes them to be
alienated (the opposite of “IN”) from Christ. (Gal. 5:1-4). What is the problem with the Galatians? They were losing their faith and instead they were trying to be justified by observing the law.
To teach that we can lose our salvation by removing our faith in Jesus is to equate our faith with a work: so long as we put our faith in Christ, He can sustain His saving grace. Therefore, we have to DO something--keep our faith in Him.
Actually, “to believe” is something we must “do” in order to be saved:
"Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" They said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household." To “place our trust” in Christ is something is something we must do in order to be saved. You cannot deny this truth. However, this “doing/working” is not meritorious like the sacrifices in the Roman Catholic Church that earns one's place in eternity.
And yes, we need to keep our faith in order to maintain our salvation. We must be good stewards of what God has freely given us. Look at the following passage:
2 PETER 1:10-11
10 Therefore, my brothers,
be all the more eager to make your calling and election sure. For
if you do these things, you will never fall,
11 and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
REVELATION 3:15-21
15 I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other!
16 So, because you are lukewarm--neither hot nor cold—
I am about to spit you out of my mouth.
17 You say, 'I am rich; I have acquired wealth and do not need a thing.'
But you do not realize that you are wretched, pitiful, poor, blind and naked.
18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.
19 Those whom I love I rebuke and discipline.
So be earnest, and repent.
20 Here I am! I stand at the door and knock.
If anyone hears my voice and opens the door, I will come in and eat with him, and he with me.
21
To him who overcomes, I will give the right to sit with me on my throne, just as I overcame and sat down with my Father on his throne.
JUDE 1:21
Keep yourselves in God's love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life. (Jude 1:21)
Those passages show that we have part in keeping the gift of salvation that God gave us.
That puts us in the position of earning our salvation, and if it is earned, it is not grace. Therefore, the doctrine that teaches a person can lose his salvation is a damnable doctrine, because it is rooted in human pride. We have to have SOME part in salvation . . . it can't be just as simple as that.
Not in anyway that one's
act of believing in Christ and the
act of repenting put him in the position of earning his salvation, yet it is a “doing” that one must “do.” Otherwise, one cannot have salvation. That's why Paul and Silas said to the Jailer,
“Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved...” And Jesus also said,
"He who believes in Him is not judged; he who does not believe has been judged already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.” (John 3:18 ) Jesus also wanted Jezebel to be saved if she would repent, thus he gave her time to repent so that she could be forgiven and saved (Rev. 2:21). Jezebel must “do” something.
Now, if believing is NOT WORK, then ceasing to believe is NOT WORK either.
OSAS is thoroughly supported biblically. Not only that, but, not surprisingly, no where does the Bible even hint that we can lose our salvation. It is very one sided on the issue, so that should tell you something
Well, like I said, OSAS has no strong biblical basis. Many times it is by misinterpreting a passage that one is lead to believe that OSAS is biblical. On the other hand, OSAS believers employs mental gymnastics to explain away passages that prove salvation could be lost.
