Re: The Law
Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2012 11:09 pm
I yam what yam, and I think how I think.
"The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of his hands." (Psalm 19:1)
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Actually Bart, it makes a lot of sense. And I agree with just about everything you said. I told you, whenever I can understand what you're saying(whenever you dumb it down for me), I usually agree with you.Canuckster wrote:
This probably doesn't make a lot of sense. I don't always express it well.
Bart, I think I've finally figured out how you can talk down to my level so I can understand you. If you stay up for 48 hours straight, so your brain isn't working at full capacity, you are talking closer to my level. Maybe if you stayed up for a week straight, my brain power would be equal to yours.I'm writing this at near 1 am in the morning and have been awake for the past 48 hours so if this sounds manic or confused, please forgive me. I'm trying to capture it before I go to bed. It's a lot to consider and I've only really been tuned into this for the past 4 or 5 years and I'm still growing with it and I don't know how well I convey it.
Gman, you can't pull the wool over our eyes. You're a full-fledged Jew. Stop trying to say otherwise.Gman wrote:Guys and cheezerrox... I think we need to make it clear however that we DON'T swallow everything Jewish either... We don't become ethnic Jews.. We most certainly don't give any authority to the Rabbinical laws or the Talmud, which are the Oral laws or additions to the Tanach.. These are called traditions of men or "Takanot" and Yeshua taught greatly against them. We also don't take G-d's laws and turn them into crippling curses... Example if someone is hurt on the Sabbath, we don't bring them to the hospital? Or blood transfusions.. This is what Yeshua was talking about.. Turning G-d's Laws into legalism.... We should never take part in this. We follow only in love.
RickD wrote: Gman, you can't pull the wool over our eyes. You're a full-fledged Jew. Stop trying to say otherwise.
Gman, I Love You, Brother!
Ok now both of you guys are getting way too personal...Canuckster1127 wrote:I love bacon, ham and still have the aftertaste of little smokies in my mouth while I am writing this .......
I would never threaten anyone with a gun, but people can have my ham sandwich when they pry it from my cold, dead Tupperware ........
Bart, you're a man after my own heart...I mean stomach. You're making me hungry.Canuckster wrote:
I love bacon, ham and still have the aftertaste of little smokies in my mouth while I am writing this .......
Now that's where I draw the line! Real men use Rubbermaid. Tupperware is for sissies.Canuckster wrote:
I would never threaten anyone with a gun, but people can have my ham sandwich when they pry it from my cold, dead Tupperware ........
Zionist, to be honest, I forgot about what you said before. I have a horrible memory. What do you say we let bygones be bygones, and reconcile over a ham and bacon club sandwich? We can even have it on unleavened bread!Zionist wrote:
first off i would like to apologize to you for overreacting.
Amen.. And thank you for posting this... After I removed all the stereotypes from the OT laws or Tanach, I can't really see NOTHING bad about following Torah.. In fact, I have finally achieved great peace in my life.. Finally after many many years.. But no one ever explained it to me to where I understood it.Zionist wrote:@Rick
first off i would like to apologize to you for overreacting. i know now you were just joking but it did upset me because i have deep love towards the jewish people. i get upset when i see fellow believers separate themselves from their jewish brehteren but i do respect you rick as a brother in messiah so i just wanted to make that clear to you. i would like to add that a lot of believers now unfortunately have a negative perspective of Torah but from my studies i have seen that Torah is not negative nor is it bad. it is from God and is holy. so many years of separation from our hebraic roots has made us lose sight of what Torah really means so i would like to encourage all believers to put whatever denominational belief aside and just truly stay in God's word alone to find the answers to difficult questions we have. Yeshua is our salvation and salvation is a free gift from God. as we walk in His light and truly seek truth he'll reveal that to us helping us all answer difficult questions.
Well technically they are natural branches. The rest are grafted in. Same tree thoGman wrote: Technically we and the Jews are still brothers..
Yes.. As long as that tree is rooted in Yeshua. My personal belief on that is many will convert when they see Him coming through the clouds, when they call out for their Messiah Matthew 23:39, Zech 12:10-11. But I think they will be happy with Yeshua when they find out that He was a Jew all along and that all the Torah laws will come back under Him. Yeshua will actually not be coming against His Jewish people. He will be coming to protect and exult them. Anyways this is how I see it..KBCid wrote:Well technically they are natural branches. The rest are grafted in. Same tree thoGman wrote: Technically we and the Jews are still brothers..
I talked to some Orthodox Jews once at the Kotel and they told me that they couldn't stand JC. In fact they didn't even want to pronounce His name because of the way Christians have persecuted Jews and made a mockery of G-d's commandments. Well we next generation of Christians hope to change all that.. And follow all the fun Biblical festivals too.. In fact I think I want to take all the Sabbaths and Biblical festivals that Christians don't want and store them up in my barn so that others can enjoy them... After all, they don't want them.. Right?RickD wrote:G, I can't help but wonder what it's like for a Jew who knows the OT. What's it like for him when his eyes are opened, and he sees Jesus Christ for who He really is. When he really sees that Jesus is the fulfillment of all the OT celebrations. Have you ever talked to anyone who has been a devout Jew all his life who has come to accept Jesus Christ? It must make for an amazing conversation.